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SMU has 3 football National Championships

Postby EastStang » Mon Feb 07, 2005 4:46 pm

http://www.ncaa.org/champadmin/ia_football_past_champs.html

According to this website we have shares of three national titles, 1935, 1981 and 1982. Certainly not consensus, but why shouldn't we claim them.
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Postby MrMustang1965 » Mon Feb 07, 2005 6:07 pm

What an incredible amount of research this is!!!! Unfortunately, I don't think anyone would recognize our 'national championship' status in those three years. All this does is further the argument that there should be a PLAYOFF SYSTEM just like there is in Div. 1-AA, Div. II and Div. III football, as well as in basketball and baseball.
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Postby BUS » Mon Feb 07, 2005 6:10 pm

That was fun to look at but I do not know that I could phrase it... Three National Ships.
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Re: SMU has 3 football National Championships

Postby PonySoprano » Mon Feb 07, 2005 6:35 pm

[quote="EastStang
Certainly not consensus, but why shouldn't we claim them?[/quote]

I agree, we should claim them. At the very least we should claim the 1935 National Championship.

What is interesting is that according to the link, TCU is also listed as a 1935 National Champion, and I noticed at the game at Amon Carter this past fall that they have "1935 National Champions" on their scoreboard.

We finished the regular season that year undefeated, including a 20-14 win over #2 TCU. We then lost to Stanford 7-0 in the Rose Bowl.

Either way, if TCU is claiming the 1935 National Championship and displaying it in their stadium, we damn sure should be doing the same thing!
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Postby EastStang » Tue Feb 08, 2005 9:07 am

It wasn't like this is us calling ourselves the National Champion, at least one independent service named us national champions. And yes, we did beat TCU and Sammy Baugh in 1935 and then lost a Rose Bowl game to Stanford. We certainly have as many bragging rights to that National Championship as TCU. We had a better record in 1982 than Penn State and the Jo Pa pity vote. They beat #3 Alabama in the Sugar Bowl, we beat #7 Pitt and Dan Marino in the Cotton Bowl. I also would note the Cotton Bowl committee tried to get Penn State to the Cotton Bowl that year for a 1-2 match-up, but Joe Pa ducked us to play Alabama.
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Postby BUS » Tue Feb 08, 2005 9:12 am

What if we are up front and obvious.

Put NATIONAL CHAMPIONS Year
Caption ( According to: what agency or group )
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Postby Dooby » Tue Feb 08, 2005 10:22 am

USC has 11 football national championships per their website. They include their 1939 squad as selected by only Dickinson. Dickinson is the same outfit that selected SMU the national champion in 1935.

I don't see why USC should count their 1939 season and we should not count our 1935 season.

Curiously, USC includes 1932 but not 1933. IN 1933, USC was voted national champion by only Williamson, which is the same group that selected TCU in 1935.

Also, Michigan includes on its list of national titles both 1932 and 1933.

In addition to TCU, on their websites, Minnesota and Princeton include 1935 as a national championship year as well. Curiously, LSU does not.
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