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Postby Danny Noonan » Sat Jun 11, 2005 6:11 pm

about this time. But it just kills me to watch schools like Baylor, Rice, and TCU get to enjoy postseason baseball. And be pretty damn good, if not the best in the nation, at it. What I wouldn't give to get to watch some quality amatuer baseball in the spring.

And for those that feel the need to tell me this isn't about football or that if I write a $50 million check to SMU my wish might come true, I understand that. Point taken.

It just kills me to see schools at the same level as us take advantage of the abundance of Texas baseball talent and compete at a national level. Or compete at all.
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Postby davidsmu94 » Sat Jun 11, 2005 8:22 pm

Well Get used to it. With the current admin, nothing is getting done.
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Postby PK » Sat Jun 11, 2005 11:15 pm

In all the years that we did have baseball...what was our record???? Ganted we might have a better chance now for a better record, but the reality is that there are a lot of teams out there you never hear anything about...what's to keep us from being the same. A new stadium won't be cheap, especially after you also build equal women's softball facilities, so what will we have gained?
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Postby Danny Noonan » Sun Jun 12, 2005 1:28 am

PK wrote:In all the years that we did have baseball...what was our record???? Ganted we might have a better chance now for a better record, but the reality is that there are a lot of teams out there you never hear anything about...what's to keep us from being the same. A new stadium won't be cheap, especially after you also build equal women's softball facilities, so what will we have gained?


Well we don't seem to win at football or basketball but people seem to enjoy those sports existing.

If we don't get the Bush Library, we'll have a lot of free land. I know it won't make financial sense, but just throwing it out there........
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Postby PonySnob » Sun Jun 12, 2005 10:52 am

[quote="Danny Noonan"][quote="PK"]Well we don't seem to win at football or basketball but people seem to enjoy those sports existing/quote]

Judging by our attendance when we don't "rent" fans, not many people seem to enjoy those sports at SMU.
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Postby Stallion » Sun Jun 12, 2005 12:04 pm

have the economics of college baseball changed in the last few years. It seems like a lot of schools and especially a lot of private schools seem willing to pour a lot of money into the sport. It used to be an afterthought but with expanded cable opprtunities is college baseball a more financially possible alternative? I really don't know but as for building a stadium-TCU, Rice and Tulane have each built one in the last 2 years.
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Postby overcusser » Sun Jun 12, 2005 12:17 pm

Why not try what UNT is doing? Partner with the Texas Collegiate League. It's a summer league made up of college baseball players. Todd Van Poppel is an ower of the Denton francise. They've struck a deal where UNT donates the land and the TCL will build a stadium. TCL gets use of the stadium durning the summer, but UNT owns it and the land and will use the stadium to resurrect it's baseball program as the major start up cost of the baseball program has already been met.

Highland Park already has a TCL francise playing their games at Scotland Yard (Highland Park HS)
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Postby NavyCrimson » Sun Jun 12, 2005 12:20 pm

pk -

i have to disagree with u on this one -

smu really never took baseball seriously -

how cheap it would have been to build a baseball stadium years ago & we didn't do it -

from what i understand, they worked baseball to get football players -

& yes, the ol stallion is right, college baseball in the last 10-15 yrs has certainly changed from what it used to be / tv really has made a difference -

besides, its one of the few sports that the non-bcs teams have on the bcs-bs teams!!!

look who has one the college world series the last 2 years - cal st fullerton & rice & the tea-sips before!!!

& then look @ tulane this yr - #1 for much of the season!
BRING BACK THE GLORY DAYS OF SMU FOOTBALL!!!

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Postby PK » Sun Jun 12, 2005 12:41 pm

NavyCrimson, I don't mean to be negative about having a baseball team, but we just dismantled a winning men's track and field team which couldn't have been costing that much just to keep from having to expand the women's programs. Obviously, a baseball team could possibly be able to pay for itself, but the additional women's programs would probably not. I admit though that it would at least give us something else to talk about this time of the year instead of jumping all over each other's *sses about nothing.
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Postby bubba pony » Sun Jun 12, 2005 2:19 pm

if you had a male baseball team you would have to have another female sport. we already have girls rowing and equestrian. we would have to have a girls softball team or something similar. so that's two more sports. plus land. male baseball team would draw poorly just like male football and basketball.
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Postby bubba pony » Sun Jun 12, 2005 2:20 pm

if you had a male baseball team you would have to have another female sport. we already have girls rowing and equestrian. we would have to have a girls softball team or something similar. so that's two more sports. plus land. male baseball team would draw poorly just like male football and basketball.
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Postby NavyCrimson » Sun Jun 12, 2005 2:58 pm

pk -

that's a point however...

outside of football, what real chance do we or any other bcs-bs team has in becoming a legitimate #1, or for that matter, a top 10 program?

quite frankly, there is nothing outside of basketball that provides enough media attention & $$$ -

forget track, forget soccer forget everything else except football, baseball & basketball!

granted, if the non-bcs-bs administrations refuse to fight the bcs-cartel, then what!? & then again, that is precisely what is happening!!! they are a bunch of whipped pups with their tails between their legs! :cry:

winners create fans & smu 'decided' to become a winner, there are your fans!
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Postby jtstang » Sun Jun 12, 2005 3:03 pm

PK wrote:I admit though that it would at least give us something else to talk about this time of the year instead of jumping all over each other's *sses about nothing.

Yeah, maybe, but it sure wouldn't be as much fun!
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Postby Charleston Pony » Sun Jun 12, 2005 5:25 pm

While I'd love to have baseball and softball teams at SMU, the economics of our athletic dept aren't going to allow it and even if we had the funding, where would we have the land to build a baseball/softball complex? Is the old Bairds plant site even feasible?
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Postby EastStang » Sun Jun 12, 2005 6:31 pm

I love baseball, I even tried out for the baseball team after being all league in high school. Now for the reality check. First you'd have to add two women's sports to sustain baseball. For a competitive division 1 baseball program, you're talking 20 scholarships, when we had baseball it had 1 scholarship for a real baseball player and maybe 5 others for football players who happened to play baseball (when that was legal). Thus you would need to add 20 women's sports scholarships (possibly 22-30 given the current disparity). Baseball has 25 players or so to a team, thus you would need women's sport(s) that has participation by 30-40 women. That's 42 scholarships minimum at $30,000 per athlete, you're talking $1.2 Million per year added to the athletic budget and you haven't hired coaches, gotten equipment, paid for travel. Those will cost another $1 Million per year. And you still haven't built a stadium. Also, the reason there is so much coverage of the college super regionals this year is because the NHL is on strike, so ESPN is filling airtime in an inexpensive way. When the Stanley Cup returns college baseball coverage goes down. So, as I have continuosly stated if you have an extra $100-200 Million lying around without a purpose, give it to the athletic department to start a baseball/softball program and build a stadium in your name. Otherwise, this discussion is worthless.
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