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Arizona State Gets Two Years Probation

PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 7:56 pm
by MrMustang1965
TEMPE, Ariz. (AP) -- Arizona State was placed on two years' probation by the NCAA on Thursday for providing improper benefits to former football player Loren Wade and other irregularities in the athletic department's operations.

The penalty is the same as one already instituted by the Pac-10 and does not punish any of the school's athletic teams. The infractions initially were uncovered by an internal investigation by the university and were reported to the conference and NCAA.

``Everything that was pointed out in this investigation and in our own investigation has already been corrected,'' said Virgil Renzuli, Arizona State vice president for public affairs.

Gene Marsh, a law professor at Alabama, chaired the investigating committee. In a statement, Marsh said Arizona State should be commended for responded quickly when it found the violations and reporting them to the conference and the NCAA.

The NCAA found Arizona State guilty of a ``lack of institutional control,'' the only finding disputed by the university.

The investigation stemmed from the discovery that Wade had received improper help from a compliance assistant at the university.

The NCAA said the compliance assistant allowed Wade to use her car, arranged for his utilities to be opened under her name to save a $200 deposit, and allowed him to use her charge account for $900 toward the purchase of wheels and tires for his car.

The infractions surfaced in September 2004, and Wade was suspended for the season. In March, Wade was arrested for murder in the death of former football player Brandon Falkner outside a Scottsdale night club. Wade was taken into custody at the scene and remains jailed on a charge of first-degree murder.

The NCAA probe determined that 61 student-athletes had received excessive amounts of financial aid ranging from $4 to $833 because of ``inadequate controls over how financial aid is calculated and textbooks distributed.''

``All of these violations appeared unintentional and the student-athletes seemed unaware that they had received too much aid,'' Marsh said. ``However, the widespread and preventable nature of these violations compelled the committee to find lack of institutional control.''

The compliance assistant was fired shortly after the problems came to light.

The NCAA said that during the probationary period, which ends on Nov. 9, 2007, the university must audit all aspects of its distribution of financial aid and textbooks as previously ordered by the Pac-10.

The NCAA ordered the university to submit a preliminary report by Jan. 15 setting forth a schedule for completing the audit and implementing the necessary changes in the university's aid and textbook systems.

PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 8:50 pm
by mr. pony
Another school gets away with "punishing itself".

SMU paid your price, Mr. Sun Devil. You're welcome.

PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 8:57 pm
by indianmustang
where would SMU be without DP
top25 program?

PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 9:04 pm
by mr. pony
That's an interesting question.
My guess is the SWC doesn't break up. The SWC is a big player, BCS, etc.
SMU would have continued to recruit well and compete for conference titles.
Right where we left off.
Sure, Top 25. Techish, TCUish, if you will.

Re: Arizona State Gets Two Years Probation

PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 9:04 pm
by Corso
MrMustang1965 wrote: .... Gene Marsh, a law professor at Alabama, chaired the investigating committee....
Anyone else find it ironic that someone from 'Bama is chairing an investigation into rules infractions?

PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 9:23 pm
by abezontar
I think it would depend on where you set the parameters....if we still got busted but didn't get the death penalty, and the board still brought in pye to clean up our act then we would most likely be right were we are now, just with an additional two years of suckiness......if we never got busted then, well, me might still be a decent program; only God knows for sure.

PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 10:43 pm
by Hoop Fan
check that, only God...and my boy So Cal Pony. :P

Re: Arizona State Gets Two Years Probation

PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 11:59 pm
by Col. Nathan R. Jessep
Corso wrote:
MrMustang1965 wrote: .... Gene Marsh, a law professor at Alabama, chaired the investigating committee....

Anyone else find it ironic that someone from 'Bama is chairing an investigation into rules infractions?


Good call, Corso.

Law Prof @ ALA outta know: 1 of the biggest cheaters in the last 20 years.

Any coincidence Fran comes from ALA (Cheater U.) to the new "Miami on the Brazos"- A$M?

PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 12:00 am
by HixsontoLeVias
MrMustang1098...where is the NCAA HQ's these days? KC? Indy? If I were you, I would not take this load of crap anymore...I would bust [deleted] up to NCAA HQ's and give those guys a piece of your mind, a real [deleted] whopping, get in their face, NO MORE "glad handing BS", as you say...come on dude, we are counting on you...make a change!!

Re: Arizona State Gets Two Years Probation

PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 12:00 am
by Col. Nathan R. Jessep
Corso wrote:
MrMustang1965 wrote: .... Gene Marsh, a law professor at Alabama, chaired the investigating committee....

Anyone else find it ironic that someone from 'Bama is chairing an investigation into rules infractions?


Good call, Corso.

Law Prof @ ALA outta know: 1 of the biggest cheaters in the last 20 years.

Any coincidence Fran comes from ALA (Cheater U.) to the new "Miami on the Brazos"- A$M?

PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 12:01 am
by HixsontoLeVias
MrMustang1098...where is the NCAA HQ's these days? KC? Indy? If I were you, I would not take this load of crap anymore...I would bust [deleted] up to NCAA HQ's and give those guys a piece of your mind, a real [deleted] whopping, get in their face, NO MORE "glad handing BS", as you say...come on dude, we are counting on you...make a change!!

PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 12:30 am
by DickerJames
HixsontoLeVias wrote:MrMustang1098...where is the NCAA HQ's these days? KC? Indy? If I were you, I would not take this load of crap anymore...I would bust [deleted] up to NCAA HQ's and give those guys a piece of your mind, a real [deleted] whopping, get in their face, NO MORE "glad handing BS", as you say...come on dude, we are counting on you...make a change!!


You weren't funny when you posted as MemphisMustang, and the humor meter hasn't risen since you changed monikers.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 12:32 am
by SmooPower
indianmustang wrote:where would SMU be without DP
top25 program?


Probably gunning for our 19th straight national title right about now. :shock:

PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 7:06 am
by ponyte
Looks like the NCAA once again pounded its chest like Tarzan, yodeled a might jungle call, grabbed a vine and swung through the trees and handed ASU a roll of toilet paper so ASU could wipe its arse. Pitiful. SMU had turned itself in for violations before the DP and got hammered. ASU turns itself in and gets double secret probation. Enough about the smell from the manure pile know as the NCAA. ASU's violations, though they seem rather innocent on the surface, are probably just the surface of greater violations. Why would athletes expect that other’s charge cards could be used to improve their car by $900? How many college kids ever have $900 sitting around to put tyres and wheels on a car? Seems the athletes at ASU have access and expectations of capital that is not normally available to the average college kid. Wonder why?

PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 7:56 am
by mr. pony
If Chip Brown and Keith Whitmire of The Dallas Morning News would put down their orange and white pom-poms long enough, they could find some real news there in Austin.

You know, how DOES UT recruit so well, year in, year out? What's ol' Vince Young driving these days? Does he go to class? Why is their graduation rate so low? In other words, IS IT POSSIBLE OL' BEVO COULD SKIRT/BREAK THE RULES??

But, no. All they care about is how they can ensure everyone knows what UT "needs" to get in that Rose Bowl this year. They started back in September and are still after it today, 11/11.

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