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Deepening problems in Colorado, effect CUSA?

Postby Kappas Are Yummy » Mon Dec 12, 2005 4:10 pm

I saw this today in the DMN, apparently there are a lot of problems up there in Colorado. There has been a lot of talk north of the Red River lately about Tulsa's Coach Kragthorpe leaving the program and taking over the Buffs. As someone who follows Tulsa sports (except when they play SMU), I'm against it because I'd like Coach K to hang around a while and I think having a coach of his caliber in CUSA is good for the conference as a whole.

That said, one of my chums thinks that Coach K would be crazy not to take the job because of the Big12 affiliation and the ability to "recruit west Texas and the west." That may be so, but I still think you'd be crazy to step into that mess these days.

Maybe Coach K can pull a move like Fran did at 'Bama, but I dunno. I think Tulsa is a pretty good bet to make a run in the polls next year. The Hurricane will have a returning All-American in Mills, a veteran QB and OU transfer rusher Courtney Tennial.


http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent ... d2d07.html

Audit: Colorado football records sloppy

02:53 PM CST on Monday, December 12, 2005

Associated Press

DENVER -- A state audit released Monday stated the records of former Colorado football coach Gary Barnett's football camp were in such disarray that auditors couldn't be sure whether any laws were broken in more than $400,000 worth of transactions.

Auditors said they were unable to determine where $328,000 paid to Barnett's camps came from -- 44 percent of the total income between 2002 and 2004. Nearly $103,000 in expenses from that period lacked sufficient paperwork, the audit said.

"The absence of documentation and financial records prevented us from obtaining reasonable assurance that there were no violations of laws and regulations," the audit report said.

Barnett stepped down under pressure last week after his teams lost their final three games of the regular season. His attorney, John Rodman, did not immediately return a message seeking comment.

Separately, the audit questioned more than $300,000 in Colorado athletic department expenses since 2002 and said some administrators and members of the governing Board of Regents had not filed required conflict-of-interest reports.

In their review of athletic department finances, auditors said they found an "overall lack of controls over spending and cash advances that have led to poorly documented, questionable and unallowable expenses."

They questioned two cash advances, of $115,000 each, for team expenses at bowl games in 2002 and 2004. The report called them "excessive" and said about $16,000 lacked sufficient documentation.

The audit also questioned another $55,800 in football program expenses and $25,000 in bowl game expenses. It said the department did not have adequate controls over the use of "courtesy cars" loaned by car dealers.

Auditors also found fault with the regents and seven high-level university officials, saying they failed to file 38 required reports on conflicts of interest.

The audit was released four days after Barnett stepped down for a $3 million settlement of his contract. He had largely weathered a scandal in which at least nine women alleged they were sexually assaulted by athletes -- no criminal charges were ever filed -- but had watched his team struggle at the end of the season, including blowout losses to Nebraska and Texas.
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Postby MustangSally » Mon Dec 12, 2005 4:45 pm

Check out the CUSA board at www.ncaabbs.com, they have an article stating that Kragthorpe has turned down the CU job and will stay at Tulsa. Good for him, I'd like to see him go far with the hurricane.
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Postby DiamondM75 » Mon Dec 12, 2005 5:02 pm

MustangSally wrote:Check out the CUSA board at www.ncaabbs.com, they have an article stating that Kragthorpe has turned down the CU job and will stay at Tulsa. Good for him, I'd like to see him go far with the hurricane.


Me too!!

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Postby perunapride » Mon Dec 12, 2005 6:08 pm

Why would anyone want to leave Tulsa??? Spell it backwards.
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Postby McClown27 » Mon Dec 12, 2005 6:49 pm

Colorado is one of the 20 best jobs in the country. What is Kragthorpe waiting for?

UT? OU?
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Postby Kappas Are Yummy » Mon Dec 12, 2005 7:26 pm

I don't know what you're drinking McClown, but pass me a glass!!!

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Postby McClown27 » Mon Dec 12, 2005 8:30 pm

Kappas Are Yummy wrote:I don't know what you're drinking McClown, but pass me a glass!!!

:lol:


I drink from the fountain of truth. :roll:
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Postby McClown27 » Mon Dec 12, 2005 8:31 pm

Kappas Are Yummy wrote:I don't know what you're drinking McClown, but pass me a glass!!!

:lol:


I drink from the fountain of truth. :roll:
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Postby expony18 » Tue Dec 13, 2005 12:50 am

"coach k" might think that if a&m stays on its steller path, he might be the man to replace fran if he can't do anything with "his guys." as the former qb coach at a&m he would be a reasonable replacement, especially if he keeps tulsa at the level they've been playing
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Postby that's great raplh » Tue Dec 13, 2005 9:34 pm

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Postby PhirePhilBennett » Tue Dec 13, 2005 11:57 pm

McClown27 wrote:Colorado is one of the 20 best jobs in the country. What is Kragthorpe waiting for?

UT? OU?


Top20? Maybe, probably not though.

There are other issues.

It's like Patterson and TCU, KSU isnt' a better job than TCU right now...perhaps TULSA is better for Kragthorpe at this juncture than taking on perhaps the 5th or 6th best team in the Big12.
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Postby Kappas Are Yummy » Wed Dec 14, 2005 12:41 am

McClown27 wrote:
Kappas Are Yummy wrote:I don't know what you're drinking McClown, but pass me a glass!!!

:lol:


I drink from the fountain of truth. :roll:


You remind me of a guy I knew when I was back at SMU. When did you graduate and were you affiliated McClown?
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Postby Casey » Wed Dec 14, 2005 1:05 am

PhirePhilBennett wrote: .... KSU isnt' a better job than TCU right now.
Yeah, right.
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Postby PhirePhilBennett » Wed Dec 14, 2005 2:05 am

Casey wrote:
PhirePhilBennett wrote: .... KSU isnt' a better job than TCU right now.
Yeah, right.


So, you would trade for 5th in the Big12 maybe, vs. a 3 of the last 4 years 10-win team at TCU living in Ft. Worth vs. Manhattan KS?

Are you serious?

KSU cannot get the JUCOs in anymore, when SNYDER built his little paradise, he started out in the BIG8...they let any old Prop48 in...not anymore - the B12 only lets ONE Prop48 per team.

KSU is not likely to win the B12 anytime soon.

TCU is a better job than going to any major conference where you are going to be no higher than 5th...

I'd stay at TCU over MissState, Vandy, UKent from the SEC, as well as KU, KSU, Missouri, Baylor, from the B12...

Many a coach has taken that MAJOR conference job, and never been seen from before...he is best to wait it out until the major MAJOR conference job comes along.

As for Colorado and Kragthorpe, I think that CU is a winnable place over Tulsa, for sure, but there must be other reasons - like looming probation or some such.
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Postby McClown27 » Wed Dec 14, 2005 7:17 am

PhirePB,

If Kragthorpe does a good job next year at CU (or Prince for that matter), they will play in Big 12 Championship game. I don't see any real juggernauts in that division. That is a better job than being perpetually fifth (like Ok. State or A&M)
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