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by StangEsq » Thu Jan 05, 2006 2:14 am
Big Mack Brown, who couldn't coach his way out of a nutsack, and Pete Carroll, NFL reject, squared off in the NCAA B(c)S Championship game. Why? Because they out recruited everyone.
Face it: recruiting is what wins championships. If that weren't the case, Notre Dame would have won it all this year.
The past two classes (this year's empty class and last year's) are going to come back to bite us in the arse. It's amazing that the momentum we seemed to have ended the season with has completely dissipated.
It sucked serious @ss to see a bunch of UT bandwaggoners shouting for joy after the game tonight. Oh, what a feeling. Toyota.

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by covok48 » Thu Jan 05, 2006 6:05 am
Hmmm someone isn't bitter are they?
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by No Cal Pony » Thu Jan 05, 2006 8:38 am
no kidding. but i do agree that brown is not a great coach. carroll is a heck of a college coach, but last night i just was astounded by the coaching.
it did seem pretty obvious that brown and staff were not calling a good game either. young was in a zone all by himself, and should kiss his o-line for the job they did.
Go Ponies!
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by NavyCrimson » Thu Jan 05, 2006 9:42 am
StangEsq - get over it -
as long as the bcs-bs cartel is around, we & everyone else not associated with the cartel will be at a disadvantage -
welcome to div II football!!! 
BRING BACK THE GLORY DAYS OF SMU FOOTBALL!!!
For some strange reason, one of the few universities that REFUSE to use their school colors: Harvard Crimson & Yale Blue.
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by EastStang » Thu Jan 05, 2006 9:59 am
I thought Carroll made some horrific choices last night. The 4th and one play with just over 2 minutes left at the 40 yard line was one of them. Punt the ball and make Young move the ball another 30 yards. Getting those 30 yards might very well have eaten up the clock. I know some will say that no one had stopped White all night and that then he could have run more time off the clock and perhaps gotten in position to get the 8 point lead, but with Young on fire, he needed to make the trip as long as possible. The 4th down play in the first half as well was not smart.
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by ponyplayer » Thu Jan 05, 2006 10:13 am
what happened when Stoops took over at OU, not sure, just curious........
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by Hoop Fan » Thu Jan 05, 2006 10:32 am
EastStang wrote:I thought Carroll made some horrific choices last night. The 4th and one play with just over 2 minutes left at the 40 yard line was one of them. Punt the ball and make Young move the ball another 30 yards. Getting those 30 yards might very well have eaten up the clock. I know some will say that no one had stopped White all night and that then he could have run more time off the clock and perhaps gotten in position to get the 8 point lead, but with Young on fire, he needed to make the trip as long as possible. The 4th down play in the first half as well was not smart.
Speaking of the 4th down play, once you decide to go for it, how was #5 not on the field for the the biggest play of your season? Whats his name, Reggie Bush? I dont think you have to get cute, but at least use your biggest weapon as a decoy and don't let Texas load up on the fullback dive.
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by SWC2010 » Thu Jan 05, 2006 10:49 am
Hoop Fan wrote:EastStang wrote:I thought Carroll made some horrific choices last night. The 4th and one play with just over 2 minutes left at the 40 yard line was one of them. Punt the ball and make Young move the ball another 30 yards. Getting those 30 yards might very well have eaten up the clock. I know some will say that no one had stopped White all night and that then he could have run more time off the clock and perhaps gotten in position to get the 8 point lead, but with Young on fire, he needed to make the trip as long as possible. The 4th down play in the first half as well was not smart.
Speaking of the 4th down play, once you decide to go for it, how was #5 not on the field for the the biggest play of your season? Whats his name, Reggie Bush? I dont think you have to get cute, but at least use your biggest weapon as a decoy and don't let Texas load up on the fullback dive.
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Yeah, Hoop, Bush was quite a decoy on the sidelines on 4th down.
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what is it about having the lead & going for it on 4th down near mid-field. Sound familiar?
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by Stallion » Thu Jan 05, 2006 10:49 am
I'll give you one guess who the Rivals' No. 1 Drop Back Passer was in 2002 and another guess who was the No. 1 RB in 2003. Who was the No. 1 DT 4 years ago? How about the No. 1 OLM 4 years ago. Guess which USC QB was Parade All-American 5 years ago-he was probably in the Top 3 by Rivals but their records don't go back that far on-line. Now how many high schools in Dallas, in Texas and in the United States. Its time that some of you anecdotal critics of Rivals realize just how astronomical those picks are and how recruiting is the most important ingredient in college football success. Either that or admit that Mack Brown coached Vince Young to make those plays.
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by PonySnob » Thu Jan 05, 2006 10:57 am
I agree Stallion.....its not that hard to figure out why a team full players that were highly rated by Rivals and recruited by nothing but "big-time" programs has much more success than a team full of "diamonds in the rough". Hopefully one of these days, SMU alums will have enough of the lack of a committment by the administration to field competitive teams.
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by PK » Thu Jan 05, 2006 11:42 am
So, assuming that three years ago we were actually recruiting on a level field much like TCU, what would have been our odds of getting a Vince Young? What are TCU's odds of getting a Vince Young type player today? Fact is...if you aren't in a BCS conference, you still aren't going to get the caliber of recruits the UTs and USCs of the world get.
Do we need to get higher rated recruits?...doesn't everyone? Until we start winning and going to bowls, we will have to go with the best the coaches can find...rated by Rivals or not. It is a lot easier for Mack Brown to field a winning team than it is for any of the non-BCS teams and it is especially hard for SMU. So when we do get back to being a consistent winning program, remember what the coaches had to go through to get us there.
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by SMUFan » Thu Jan 05, 2006 11:47 am
PK wrote: .... So when we do get back to being a consistent winning program, remember what the coaches had to go through to get us there.
A-freakin'-men!
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by Stallion » Thu Jan 05, 2006 11:52 am
But the point is TCU doesn't play UT. The even more important point is that TCU, who we DO play has signed about 6 straight Texas Top 100 QBs and each time the starter gets hurt one of those QBs comes right in and runs off about 8 straight victories. Recruiting is proportional to your competition. SMU doesn't have to out recruit UTto have grand success but to take the program to the next level we have to outrecruit TCU more than 1 time in 16 years. And yes I know the score of last years' game. We are talking about building programs not 1 game.
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by Stampede » Thu Jan 05, 2006 12:05 pm
Everyone must have a starting point and that is this year, Stallion.
Once you win the first court case, the second becomes easier....but you have to win your first court case at some point in time to start your career. Correct?
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by Stallion » Thu Jan 05, 2006 12:20 pm
So you want a "do-over" for the last 16 years of crap. THE POINT: The starting point is the committment to a Model that must be put in place to allow SMU to compete on an equal level with its natural and traditional rivals. That commitment has not been made and that Model is not yet in place. Right now Phil Bennett is looking at about his 15th choice at QB because the Model will not allow him to compete with teams that have been or are on recent schedules. When that huge obstacle is obliterated is when the criticism will stop. This JC QB situation illuminates just how uncommitted SMU is.
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