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Is Coach Phil gone this week?

Posted:
Sat Sep 09, 2006 10:07 pm
by Insane_Pony_Posse
I don't think Coach Phil will be fired
immediately but I was with some serious long
time SMU fans tonight that seriously
think Coach Phil will be fired this week.
They think Orsini will act now.
What do you think?
I really don't see any upside
to firing him now.
Has a Div 1 Coach ever been fired
the 2nd week into a season?
Plus we should be 2 & 2 shortly?
I just don't see it happening so soon.

Posted:
Sat Sep 09, 2006 10:09 pm
by McClown27
Do you want Rusty Burns to coach out the season? Who else would do it? Forrest Gregg? Dandy Don? Jon Koncak?
Charlie Waters has a better job now.

Posted:
Sat Sep 09, 2006 10:11 pm
by abezontar
Don't be so sure about the 2-2 mark in two weeks.

Posted:
Sat Sep 09, 2006 10:13 pm
by FloridaMustang
We just lost to NORTH TEXAS. BY more than 2 touchdowns. Why on earth would anyone expect us to go 2-2?

Posted:
Sat Sep 09, 2006 10:17 pm
by friarwolf
Get Schellas to take over...................

Posted:
Sat Sep 09, 2006 10:18 pm
by McClown27
Orsini knows Rudy from Notre Dame. At least they would be motivated!!

Posted:
Sat Sep 09, 2006 10:21 pm
by Pony_Fan
No way he gets fired. Ridiculous. We just spent a sh*tload on the Tubbs debacle.
Tech was completely expected by everyone. If we lose to SH and AS, that would be awful....then he might lose his job after the season.

Posted:
Sat Sep 09, 2006 10:24 pm
by mr. pony
Arkansas St. will kick our *ss. No question.

Posted:
Sat Sep 09, 2006 10:27 pm
by McClown27
I am also pretty doubtful we will beat Ark. St.

Posted:
Sat Sep 09, 2006 10:46 pm
by ponyrider1947
In addition to the bad and unimaginative play calling, which of course, is Bennett and not Rusty, you all are missing an important point.
I tried to make this point 3-4 years ago and got shot down, but it is still relevant. We have the athletic ability. What our boys are missing is CONFIDENCE. CONFIDENCE that your own damn coach believes in you. Just ask some of the ex-Bennett players. They will tell you, they were put down again and again.
Even this YEAR, there is a story in the DMN about Willis having to remind Bennett who was touting the Highland park quarterback, that he, Willis shook the HP QB's hand twice - when he beat him in the state finals. So how does that make your starting quarterback feel when your own damn coach is talking about the greatness of the QB that you beat in high school.
I could go on and on about one put-down after another that Bennett gives his players. It is psychology 101. Tell me I'm good and that you believe in me and I'll be even better. Tell me I'm a piece of crap, but don't be surprised when I lived up to that.
Four years ago I posted this topic and was shot down by comments like, "These guys have to be tough. They can't be babied. waaa waaa Etc. etc." Ok, I'll agree with that, but they don't have to be ground in the dirt either. And that is what has happened to some of them if you ask around. Lots of grinding in the dirt. Again and again. From what I've heard that cannot be overstated. Bennett will get it in for one of them and whether they are the best player or not, they end up on the bench or put down in a big way in front of the entire team.
We should have invested in some sports psychologists. Not for the boys - but for the head coach. I've never seen so many missed passes in my life. That is confidence, confidence, confidence. Where is the confidence that these coaches have in the boys? And not some sound bites in a damn press conferences. TO THEIR PLAYERS' FACE. Where it counts. Ask around and you will find out. This is the elephant in the room that no one is talking about.

Posted:
Sat Sep 09, 2006 11:07 pm
by carolina stang
Razorbacks Coach Crow (Jack?-can't remember) was fired after the 92 opener when Arkansas lost to the Citadel. Frank Broyles was quick to flip the switch.

Posted:
Sat Sep 09, 2006 11:08 pm
by MrMustang1965
mr. pony wrote:Arkansas St. will kick our *ss. No question.
You're forgetting Sam Houston State...


Posted:
Sat Sep 09, 2006 11:10 pm
by couch 'em
MrMustang1965 wrote:mr. pony wrote:Arkansas St. will kick our *ss. No question.
You're forgetting Sam Houston State...

Shouldn't have a

there. With absolutely no offense, one accident is all we'll need for SHSU to win that game. This is pathetic.

Posted:
Sat Sep 09, 2006 11:10 pm
by FloridaMustang
ponyrider1947 wrote:In addition to the bad and unimaginative play calling, which of course, is Bennett and not Rusty, you all are missing an important point.
I tried to make this point 3-4 years ago and got shot down, but it is still relevant. We have the athletic ability. What our boys are missing is CONFIDENCE. CONFIDENCE that your own damn coach believes in you. Just ask some of the ex-Bennett players. They will tell you, they were put down again and again.
Even this YEAR, there is a story in the DMN about Willis having to remind Bennett who was touting the Highland park quarterback, that he, Willis shook the HP QB's hand twice - when he beat him in the state finals. So how does that make your starting quarterback feel when your own damn coach is talking about the greatness of the QB that you beat in high school.
I could go on and on about one put-down after another that Bennett gives his players. It is psychology 101. Tell me I'm good and that you believe in me and I'll be even better. Tell me I'm a piece of crap, but don't be surprised when I lived up to that.
Four years ago I posted this topic and was shot down by comments like, "These guys have to be tough. They can't be babied. waaa waaa Etc. etc." Ok, I'll agree with that, but they don't have to be ground in the dirt either. And that is what has happened to some of them if you ask around. Lots of grinding in the dirt. Again and again. From what I've heard that cannot be overstated. Bennett will get it in for one of them and whether they are the best player or not, they end up on the bench or put down in a big way in front of the entire team.
We should have invested in some sports psychologists. Not for the boys - but for the head coach. I've never seen so many missed passes in my life. That is confidence, confidence, confidence. Where is the confidence that these coaches have in the boys? And not some sound bites in a damn press conferences. TO THEIR PLAYERS' FACE. Where it counts. Ask around and you will find out. This is the elephant in the room that no one is talking about.
You are ABSOLUTELY correct. I worked for the man. I hated him, and so did many of his players. Ask any of his ex-players, as you said. He's NOT a motivator..
When are some people just going to realize that some coaches.. cant coach? Here's hoping Phil Bennett and Ron Zook end their careers very soon.

Posted:
Sat Sep 09, 2006 11:19 pm
by jkflamebo
i agree with friarwolf, bring schellas hyndman to the field and see results