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Drop it

Posted:
Tue Nov 28, 2006 2:29 am
by ponyup10
How many different ways can you say you think Bennett should be fired or stay?
You use Rice as an example...well they are an anomaly…how many other teams have gone from 1-10 to 7-5 in one season???
And play calling…BENNETT DOESN’T CONTROL THE OFFENSE…he is a defensive coach…the offense is all Rusty Burns…so if you are upset that every time the Mustangs have a first down they run it up the middle or can’t score on 2 separate 1st and goals…
If anyone should be replaced or re-evaluated its Burns…Bennett stays
P.S. there is going to be a meeting between Orsini and the players tomorrow/today (Tuesday) afternoon…
Re: Drop it

Posted:
Tue Nov 28, 2006 2:40 am
by BornRed&Blue
[quote="ponyup10"]If anyone should be replaced or re-evaluated its Burns…Bennett stays[quote]
Exactly, well said, but let me ask you this...
Who hires the offensive coordinator? Correct me if I am wrong, but doesn't the head coach pick his staff? If that is so, and Bennett hired Burns, and Burns is not doing his job, then Bennett should fire Burns. If Bennett cannot do that, then Bennett needs to be fired.
I don't know where you work, but in most "arenas of employment", if you are the boss and your employees are not performing, they don't fire the employees and keep the boss, they fire the boss.
I like Bennett, but even I know better than to call a screen pass play inside the 20 yard line, and risk an interception and eventual touchdown. Why didn't Burns know that ?????
Re: Drop it

Posted:
Tue Nov 28, 2006 2:49 am
by ponyup10
BornRed&Blue wrote:Exactly, well said, but let me ask you this...
Who hires the offensive coordinator? Correct me if I am wrong, but doesn't the head coach pick his staff? If that is so, and Bennett hired Burns, and Burns is not doing his job, then Bennett should fire Burns. If Bennett cannot do that, then Bennett needs to be fired.
That could very well be what Bennett and Orsini have been 'evaluating' maybe they threw some names around for a replacement...

Posted:
Tue Nov 28, 2006 3:00 am
by The Q
Before anyone runs Coach Burns out of town, didn't the Ponies score the third-highest number of points in school history this year? Yes, we ran up some numbers on Arkansas State and Sam Houston State, but we also put up reasonable points against Rice, Tulsa, Houston, Tulane, Marshall, etc. There's enough blame for the disappointment to go around to several.
Keep Coach Bennett.

Posted:
Tue Nov 28, 2006 3:07 am
by BornRed&Blue
The Q wrote:Before anyone runs Coach Burns out of town, didn't the Ponies score the third-highest number of points in school history this year?
So.
If the points on the board are not more than the other team's points on the board, they win the game. Who cares how many points we score, except that Bob's Steak and Chop House are matching the points scored with $37 a point (thank you Bob).
If you push on a rock all day long and it doesn't go anywhere, you haven't done anything.
If you score a million points in a season, but the other teams score more, and you don't go to a bowl . . .
Re: Drop it

Posted:
Tue Nov 28, 2006 3:11 am
by thefamousguy
ponyup10 wrote:How many different ways can you say you think Bennett should be fired or stay?
You use Rice as an example...well they are an anomaly…how many other teams have gone from 1-10 to 7-5 in one season???
And play calling…BENNETT DOESN’T CONTROL THE OFFENSE…he is a defensive coach…the offense is all Rusty Burns…so if you are upset that every time the Mustangs have a first down they run it up the middle or can’t score on 2 separate 1st and goals…
If anyone should be replaced or re-evaluated its Burns…Bennett stays
P.S. there is going to be a meeting between Orsini and the players tomorrow/today (Tuesday) afternoon…
How about TCU in Franciones first season! That Freight train hasn't stopped since!
UTEP in Price's first season! Just to name a couple!


Posted:
Tue Nov 28, 2006 3:13 am
by ponyup10
The Q wrote:Before anyone runs Coach Burns out of town, didn't the Ponies score the third-highest number of points in school history this year? Yes, we ran up some numbers on Arkansas State and Sam Houston State, but we also put up reasonable points against Rice, Tulsa, Houston, Tulane, Marshall, etc. There's enough blame for the disappointment to go around to several.
Keep Coach Bennett.
hmm...well the 3 and 6 against Tech and UNT didnt help, plus (excluding ASU & SHSU) we only scored more than 30 three times...against Tulsa, Tulane and Marshall...not exactly the cream of the C-USA crop
Re: Drop it

Posted:
Tue Nov 28, 2006 3:19 am
by ponyup10
thefamousguy wrote:How about TCU in Franciones first season! That Freight train hasn't stopped since!
UTEP in Price's first season! Just to name a couple!

yea...and now Francione isnt at TCU (and most of that had to do with one man...not the coach...LaDanian Tomlinson)...and UTEP went 5-7 this year...

Posted:
Tue Nov 28, 2006 7:50 am
by jtstang
Bennett is the head coach. The buck stops with him in all phases of the game. Period.
Re: Drop it

Posted:
Tue Nov 28, 2006 8:59 am
by SMU Football Blog
ponyup10 wrote:You use Rice as an example...well they are an anomaly…how many other teams have gone from 1-10 to 7-5 in one season???
Utep: 2-11 in 2003; 8-4 2004.
Tulsa: Tulsa 1-11 in 2002; 8-5 in 2003;
UCF: 0-11 in 2004; 8-5 in 2005
That took me 30 seconds and that is just in the conference.
Re: Drop it

Posted:
Tue Nov 28, 2006 9:11 am
by CalallenStang
ponyup10 wrote:thefamousguy wrote:How about TCU in Franciones first season! That Freight train hasn't stopped since!
UTEP in Price's first season! Just to name a couple!

yea...and now Francione isnt at TCU (and most of that had to do with one man...not the coach...LaDanian Tomlinson)...and UTEP went 5-7 this year...
Navy.

Posted:
Tue Nov 28, 2006 9:52 am
by 2112
Todd Graham is known as a great recruiter, if he beat us in his first season.............doesn't give me a lot of confidence for the future.

Posted:
Tue Nov 28, 2006 10:15 am
by Thumper
Dan McCarney had what, six? seven? seasons before winning at Iowa State, at which point he suddenly was hailed as some kind of coaching genius.
Tom Landry lost a lot of games early on, prompting some to claim Tex Schramm was nuts for giving him a 10-year-deal (while the losing still was going on). I'd say Schramm called that one correctly. Joe Gibbs started 0-5 in his first season in Washington, leading many to call for his head. A few years ago, he walked on water as he started lining up Lombardi Trophies in Washington.
Then, just to show what a ridiculously short memory sports fans (and administrators) sometimes have, McCarney was canned this season. And suddenly Gibbs "has forgotten how to coach" .... or something.
Every circumstance plays out differently. Using the same formula for determining growth and improvement and success would have deprived the NFL of two Hall of Fame coaches, and there are countless college coaches who have similar tales. I don't know whether Coach Bennett has that kind of future, but I'm glad Steve-O is making the decision, and not some of the passionate-yet-reactionary folks here (myself included).

Posted:
Tue Nov 28, 2006 10:39 am
by PerunaPunch
Just rambling here...
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think Burns was a "Bennett insider" when he was selected to be our OC. I seem to recall that whoever Bennett really wanted wasn't available, and so he selected what he felt to be the best OC available. You certainly can't argue with Burns' stats at Marshall. But is seems that a lot of this game of coaching musical chairs seems to revolve around the national coaches convention and recommendations from people who coached with people who coached with acquaintances...
Like the players Bennett inherited... In the end, you have to play the cards you're dealt and try to get the best out of them.
One thing that sticks in my mind from the Rice game... The OC must not have had much confidence in our ability to punch in up the middle if he kept calling sweeps, misdirection plays, etc.
Opinions anyone??

Posted:
Tue Nov 28, 2006 10:43 am
by Thumper
Nope. I got the sense Bennett liked/respected/whatever Burns, but he was not Bennett's first choice. I can't remember the name now, but there was someone else who was supposed to be dynamite who we couldn't afford.