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Hypothetical

PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 1:27 pm
by friarwolf
While we try to talk MM65 off the ledge, here's a hypothetical to ponder.

We go 6 and 6 next year - with a conference record of 6 and 2. We play in the conference championship and win. We go bowling and get squished 42 to 13 by the fourth place team in a BCS conference finishing 7 and 7. Does Bennett live to fish another day or does Orsini cut bait??????????

PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 1:32 pm
by MustangIcon
Very interesting question you pose. Only flaw is conference record includes all games in CUSA, not just West.

So unless we go 0-4 in OOC its almost impossible for us to be 6-6 and still win the West.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 1:34 pm
by mustangnation
My prediction is if Bennett reaches 7 wins then he will keep his job. Anything less then 7 he will be fired.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 1:35 pm
by friarwolf
Sorry, screwed up the conference numbers..............

PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 1:36 pm
by MustangStealth
MustangIcon wrote:Very interesting question you pose. Only flaw is conference record includes all games in CUSA, not just West.

So unless we go 0-4 in OOC its almost impossible for us to be 6-6 and still win the West.


If we lost to NTSU and Ark St., it's time to turn in our jock strap and set up croquet in Ford.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 1:41 pm
by abezontar
that would be an incredible croquet facility

PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 1:44 pm
by smupony94
abezontar wrote:that would be an incredible croquet facility


Well we are great in country club sports

PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 2:39 pm
by Dooby
None of this is hard. There is no hypothetical or guesswork required.

For 2007, Bowl=job; no bowl=new coach.

And here is the thing. There are six C-USA bowls in 2007 as opposed to five. Fair chance that 6-6 gets a bowl in 2007.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 2:44 pm
by EastStang
Also by winning the conference championship game we are no longer 6-6, but 7-6. Also, the Liberty Bowl has the option of choosing a different CUSA team. They just have the first choice. So, they might skip us and go down the list. Ultimately with 6 bowls, someone would have to take us this year at 7-6. The scarier thought might be what if we won the west and had a 6-6 record and lost the championship game in quadruple overtime. That would make us 6-7 and bowl ineligible. Would Bennett keep his job then? Unless UH runs away with it, the western division winner could have a 5-3 record in conference. So, it could be very possible that we could be 1-3 OOC and could win the division at 5-3.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 2:49 pm
by MustangIcon
Dooby wrote: For 2007, Bowl=job; no bowl=new coach.


I disagree. A bowl alone is not good enough. 6 years is plenty time enough to produce your first winning record and if PB doesn't do that this season- he will be fired.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 3:00 pm
by Mountain Mustang
[quote="EastStan That would make us 6-7 and bowl ineligible. [/quote]

We'd still be bowl eligible with 6 wins. That's quite a scenario though. Gotta love those quadruple overtime games.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 3:02 pm
by MustangStealth
Mountain Mustang wrote:
EastStang wrote: That would make us 6-7 and bowl ineligible.


We'd still be bowl eligible with 6 wins. That's quite a scenario though. Gotta love those quadruple overtime games.


No we wouldn't. You have to be .500 or better.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 3:17 pm
by Mountain Mustang
I'm sorry, I thought 6 wins was the requirement. From Wikipedia:

The term bowl eligible refers to any NCAA football team that is able to play in one of the 32 bowl games. In order to be bowl eligible, a team must have at least six wins, including conference and out-of-conference games, and the team must not be on probation.

I then saw this also on Wikipedia:

On April 26, 2006, the NCAA announced that they were relaxing the rules for eligibility starting with the 2006 season, particularly in light of the new 12 game college football season. Now, teams with .500 records can qualify for bowl games if their conference has a contract with a bowl game. Also, teams with .500 records (e.g. 6-6) could earn bowl bids if all other Division I-A teams with winning records have been taken and postseason spots still remain vacant.[1]

My question is which one supersedes the other? 6 wins or .500 record? Does a conference championship game count on that record? Technically then we'd be bowl eligible before the championship game, but not after it under the .500 scenario. Just wondering what is correct here.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 3:20 pm
by J.T.supporta
Bowl Game or BUST...

and if PB were to lose all his OOC games, hes getting fired no matter what the record is at the end of the year.

im sure if NTSU beat us again theyd ask if they can swap conferences with us.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 3:22 pm
by mrydel
It is my understanding that the original 6 win statement was based on an 11 game season. When it went to 12 games the standard became a "winning" season with the exception that a .500 season is ok if teams that have winnig seasons (7 games) would be selected first and then if there were 6 win teams available they could be chosen. A 7 win team always goes ahead of a 6 win as we witnessed this year.

I do not know the definite answer to the conference championship question of a 6-6 team losing and being then 6-7 but I would have to assume based on what I understand that the team would no longer be eligible for a bowl game with a 6-7 record. A losing record is not bowl eligible, nor should they be.