SWC Clarification

[davish75]

Were there changes in how money was shared in the SWC due to pressures from Texas?

Was this an attempt to hold things together?

Before the breakup, were there efforts to change business model to makes things work or was Texas just non-cooperative as they wanted out?

[Stallion]

No there were changes in revenue distributions. Used to be split evenly but several years before breakup it was split based on numbers of TV appearances for TV revenue. I think bowl teams were given greater % of bowl game reciepts too. May have been other changes as well such as in the visiting team split.

[mr. pony]

I believe the question was, were changes due to pressure from UT, and was UT simply being uncooperative because they wanted out?

[Stallion]

Well what the hell do you think UT should have done. SMU, TCU, Rice hadn't built one single facility in 40 years. SMU was run by a [deleted] that was trying to convince the SWC to play under more stringent rules than all other major conferences. SMU seemed perfectly happy playing in a 3A Texas High School facility where the opposing school was expected to change in the BB facility across the street. UT had every right to tell the yahoos at SMU, Rice and TCU to go play Ivy League Football. UT was right-SMU, TCU and Rice were simply riding coattails.

[2112]

if your wife is fat....do you remind her everyday? would you buy her a treadmill? or would you keep on telling her she is fat, every f--k--g day?

[Mexmustang]

you mean your ex-wife?

[jtstang]

I believe the question was, were changes due to pressure from UT, and was UT simply being uncooperative because they wanted out?

Probably, and can you blame them?

[smu diamond m]

you mean your ex-wife?

zing

[that's great raplh]

if your wife is fat....do you remind her everyday? would you buy her a treadmill? or would you keep on telling her she is fat, every f--k--g day?

the best post ever

period

gelding sucks

[PlanoStang]

Stallion...wife Is that possible

[EastStang]

Let's go back to the beginning of all this. First defection was Arkansas who went chasing SEC $$$$. Had they stayed, I am not sure the conference would have folded. UT and Arkansas were the 10,000 lb. gorillas followed by A&M. Had Arkansas stayed, I suspect that if a desire to grow to 12 had been envisioned, schools closer to Arkansas could have been added, Kansas, Missouri, OU come to mind. And lets not forget that UT had it pretty good in the SWC even as it was formulated. They got three patsies per year in conference (Rice, SMU, TCU) with virtually no travel cost to them in locations where they have large alumni bases. If these schools were reworking the television, bowl and visitor gate deals, then UT had nothing to gripe about. They would have had three dates to schedule any tougher teams they wanted to schedule or patsies either way. It was also expected that they would own the Big XII south and the Big XII. Hasn't worked out too well there either, except for that one National Championship year. They would have pretty much owned the SWC.

[Nacho]

UT wanted to go to the PAC-10 and A&M to the SEC so it was going to fall apart anyway. I wonder if the Big 12 north likes the the Big 12? I bet they regret it.

[Stallion]

the fact is that SWC TV contract was simply non-competitive with other major conferences. The SWC had become a 1 state conference. The loss of TV revenues meant less recruiting visibility. The loss of recruiting visibility translates to lack of competitiveness on the field. TV and the "sitting-on-their-ass as Rome was burning attitude" of the private schools essentially broke up the SWC.

[Rayburn]

I wonder if the Big 12 north likes the the Big 12? I bet they regret it.

Oooooooooh yeah they do. Nebraska thought it would be dominant forever, WRONG! Kansas, Mizzou, Iowa State get regularly wacked. CU and K-State have had some success. They're all griping about it all the way to the bank.

What the hell, screw the old Big Eight.