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Postby davish75 » Sat Jun 02, 2007 12:06 pm

Doesn't make sense that the best of the mid-majors form a super conference and then demand BCS status? It seems that such a conference would need to be 16 schools instead of 12 schools. My ideal mid-major conference is:

East
SMU
TCU
Houston
So Miss
Central Florida
Memphis
East Carolina
Marshall (or Tulsa)

West
BYU
Utah
UTEP
New Mexico
UNLV
Wy.
Boise State
Hawaii (or Fresno State)
Colo. State
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Postby perunapower » Sat Jun 02, 2007 12:20 pm

You have entirely too much free time.
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Postby mr. pony » Sat Jun 02, 2007 1:11 pm

I kind of like it. No Hawaii, though.
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Postby CalallenStang » Sat Jun 02, 2007 3:50 pm

You have nine teams in the west division. Strike Wyoming and let's have Fresno State instead of Hawai'i. Then I think you've got something.

I'd like to get Miami (OH) in there too, but I just don't see a slot to put them into where it wouldn't weaken the conference.
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Postby mr. pony » Sat Jun 02, 2007 4:59 pm

Dump Central Fla and Marshall for Vandy and Miss. State, too. Then you got something.
That's right, raid the SEC.
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Re: Mid-major super conference

Postby PhirePhilBennett » Sun Jun 03, 2007 11:01 am

davish75 wrote:Doesn't make sense that the best of the mid-majors form a super conference and then demand BCS status? It seems that such a conference would need to be 16 schools instead of 12 schools. My ideal mid-major conference is:

East
SMU
TCU
Houston
So Miss
Central Florida
Memphis
East Carolina
Marshall (or Tulsa)

West
BYU
Utah
UTEP
New Mexico
UNLV
Wy.
Boise State
Hawaii (or Fresno State)
Colo. State



I think they tried that before...they called it the WAC (16)

not until the worst of the worst of the worst became the now WAC did they become the BEST non-BCS conference...

Why not have the WAC and MWC play a playoff and get a BCS slot, and the MAC and CUSA champs play into a BCS spot.
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Re: Mid-major super conference

Postby MustangStealth » Mon Jun 04, 2007 2:25 pm

PhirePhilBennett wrote:I think they tried that before...they called it the WAC (16)


Correct, and it didn't work. Rivalries are watered down, the conference is too spread out to focus on things like regional TV deals and regional bowl games, etc.
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Postby SMU Football Blog » Mon Jun 04, 2007 3:16 pm

Not one MAC team?

No. Illinois is 49-25 over last six seasons with 3 bowls and no losing seasons.

Miami (Ohio) has two losing seasons since 1990.
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Postby CalallenStang » Mon Jun 04, 2007 3:22 pm

SMU Football Blog wrote:Not one MAC team?

No. Illinois is 49-25 over last six seasons with 3 bowls and no losing seasons.

Miami (Ohio) has two losing seasons since 1990.


I like Miami more than No. Illinois. That would be a beautful road trip to take for a game in late September and October. They have one of the most beautiful campuses in the nation. Plus, they have more of a football legacy. A quick sampling of their former football coaches or assistants: Blaik, Paul Brown, Hayes, Schembechler, Parseghian, Tressel, Dietzel, and current New Orleans Saints coach Sean Payton.
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Postby EastStang » Tue Jun 05, 2007 8:01 am

With our record, I suspect we'd be left out of any mid-major Super Conference.
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Re: Mid-major super conference

Postby covok48 » Tue Jun 05, 2007 1:44 pm

PhirePhilBennett wrote:
davish75 wrote:Doesn't make sense that the best of the mid-majors form a super conference and then demand BCS status? It seems that such a conference would need to be 16 schools instead of 12 schools. My ideal mid-major conference is:

East
SMU
TCU
Houston
So Miss
Central Florida
Memphis
East Carolina
Marshall (or Tulsa)

West
BYU
Utah
UTEP
New Mexico
UNLV
Wy.
Boise State
Hawaii (or Fresno State)
Colo. State



I think they tried that before...they called it the WAC (16)

not until the worst of the worst of the worst became the now WAC did they become the BEST non-BCS conference...

Why not have the WAC and MWC play a playoff and get a BCS slot, and the MAC and CUSA champs play into a BCS spot.



I really like this playoff idea. Now I'm not fan of the current BCS BS system, but this looks like a plausable idea that fits the current mold that the BCS catrel agrees to.

BCS would like it: 1 or 2 extra BCS bowl games ($$$).

Fans would like it: extra quality games in January, give a shot to mid majors.

Everyone would like it: Beginnings of a playoff system that everyone could like, or at least tolerate.
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Postby SMUballboy » Tue Jun 05, 2007 5:32 pm

mr. pony wrote:Dump Central Fla and Marshall for Vandy and Miss. State, too. Then you got something.
That's right, raid the SEC.


that is possibly the dumbest thing I have read. Why would Vandy and Miss St. leave the SEC for some Mid-Major super conf.? The SEC also wouldn't allow it either b/c they'd loose their conf. championship game.
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Postby PhirePhilBennett » Tue Jun 05, 2007 8:00 pm

A. yes, dumb. Why would either team leave $EC
B. the SEC would just pick up someone else
C. Miss St sucks, SMiss be a better team, but not as much alums
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Re: Mid-major super conference

Postby gangrene » Tue Jun 05, 2007 11:31 pm

davish75 wrote:Doesn't make sense that the best of the mid-majors form a super conference and then demand BCS status? It seems that such a conference would need to be 16 schools instead of 12 schools. My ideal mid-major conference is:

East
SMU
TCU
Houston
So Miss
Central Florida
Memphis
East Carolina
Marshall (or Tulsa)

West
BYU
Utah
UTEP
New Mexico
UNLV
Wy.
Boise State
Hawaii (or Fresno State)
Colo. State


Now that is fuuuuunny. SMU football and the word "best" mentioned in the same post ...
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Postby Peruna_Ate_My_Rolex » Wed Jun 06, 2007 12:46 am

CalallenStang wrote:
SMU Football Blog wrote:Not one MAC team?

No. Illinois is 49-25 over last six seasons with 3 bowls and no losing seasons.

Miami (Ohio) has two losing seasons since 1990.


I like Miami more than No. Illinois. That would be a beautful road trip to take for a game in late September and October. They have one of the most beautiful campuses in the nation. Plus, they have more of a football legacy. A quick sampling of their former football coaches or assistants: Blaik, Paul Brown, Hayes, Schembechler, Parseghian, Tressel, Dietzel, and current New Orleans Saints coach Sean Payton.


I don't know about you but I'd prefer to make a stop in Chicago on the way to Dekalb.
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