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What The Hell Did We Waste a Redshirt Year on Bailey at RB?

Posted:
Mon Sep 03, 2007 8:19 pm
by Stallion
I couldn't believe it. Now we got a freshman 4th string running back playing behind a First Stringer and Second Stringer who are only Juniors. On the other hand we've got big big problems at Safety-Bailey's natural position. Either play him at S or redshirt him at RB if you really think he's a superstar RB. DON'T WASTE A YEAR OF DEVELOPMENT AT RB. This is one of the strangest redshirt decisions I've ever witnessed as an SMU fan. He better play now or suddendly suffer a mysterious illness all of a sudden so he doesn't lose this year.

Posted:
Mon Sep 03, 2007 8:23 pm
by Corso
Bailey played some safety.
The No. 2 who played RB was Chris Butler, who already redshirted.

Posted:
Mon Sep 03, 2007 8:30 pm
by Stallion
If I'm wrong I'm wrong. But Bailey is listed as No. 2 on the roster not Butler-the announcer called Bailey's name twice, my eyes are getting bad but it looked like Bailey not Butler and he looked 6-2 not 5-10. Butler is No. 33 unless he changed numbers. Any others see what I did or thought I did?

Posted:
Mon Sep 03, 2007 8:35 pm
by McClown27
I thought it was Butler.

Posted:
Mon Sep 03, 2007 8:39 pm
by JasonB
Bailey played saftey at the end of the game.
Butler played RB at the end of the game.
It was a mistake by the announcer, both players are number 2 in the guide I got at the stadium.
FYI, redshirt isn't offically wasted until after like the third game of the season. So you can play some people in the first couple of games and not necessarily waste a redshirt.

Posted:
Mon Sep 03, 2007 8:41 pm
by J.T.supporta
Yes you are right about that JasonB...glad you brought it up about redshirting

Posted:
Mon Sep 03, 2007 8:42 pm
by Stallion
OK I hope that is the case. I know I heard Bailey over the speakers.

Posted:
Mon Sep 03, 2007 8:45 pm
by PonyPride
Butler has been wearing No. 2 for a couple of weeks now.
Both guys wearing No. 2 played tonight.

Posted:
Mon Sep 03, 2007 9:02 pm
by The XtC
[quote="JasonB"]Bailey played saftey at the end of the game.
Butler played RB at the end of the game.
It was a mistake by the announcer, both players are number 2 in the guide I got at the stadium.
FYI, redshirt isn't offically wasted until after like the third game of the season. So you can play some people in the first couple of games and not necessarily waste a redshirt.[/quote]
Redshirt is burned the moment you step on the field. If the player is injured and out for the season prior to playing 20% of the schedule, he can apply for a medical hardship. Hardship and redshirt are NOT the same thing, the often used term "medical redshirt" is a misnomer, it's not the same thing. Not all appeals are granted, you have to prove that the player had a medical condition that necessitated him missing the entire season, and he cannot practice or dress out for games the rest of the season.

Posted:
Mon Sep 03, 2007 9:10 pm
by Stallion
that's the way the rule has always been unless its been changed. As I've pointed out I have no problems playing freshmen but you better intend to play them serious minutes once that redshirt is off. The reference to a mysterious injury was in reference to Henderson and Massey who suffered mysterious injuries after playing a couple of plays of their first game.

Posted:
Mon Sep 03, 2007 9:24 pm
by mrydel
XTC's defining of redshirt and medical hardship are correct. The redshirt is gone in one play.

Posted:
Mon Sep 03, 2007 9:54 pm
by SWC2010
The XtC wrote:JasonB wrote:Bailey played saftey at the end of the game.
Butler played RB at the end of the game.
It was a mistake by the announcer, both players are number 2 in the guide I got at the stadium.
FYI, redshirt isn't offically wasted until after like the third game of the season. So you can play some people in the first couple of games and not necessarily waste a redshirt.
Redshirt is burned the moment you step on the field. If the player is injured and out for the season prior to playing 20% of the schedule, he can apply for a medical hardship. Hardship and redshirt are NOT the same thing, the often used term "medical redshirt" is a misnomer, it's not the same thing. Not all appeals are granted, you have to prove that the player had a medical condition that necessitated him missing the entire season, and he cannot practice or dress out for games the rest of the season.
________
We argue about this each year--
the rules now allow for players to play in a limited number of snaps in non-conference games but still preserve their red-shirt.
Next question...

Posted:
Mon Sep 03, 2007 9:57 pm
by J.T.supporta
YES, that is the official rule

Posted:
Mon Sep 03, 2007 9:59 pm
by ALEX LIFESON
Freshman that played today, that could have redshirted.
Justin Smart
Youri Yenga
Ryan Leonard
Darrius Bell
De' Von Bailey
Aldrick Robinson

Posted:
Mon Sep 03, 2007 10:18 pm
by Ponymon
ALEX LIFESON wrote:Freshman that played today, that could have redshirted.
Justin Smart
Youri Yenga
Ryan Leonard
Darrius Bell
De' Von Bailey
Aldrick Robinson
Bennett is NOT going to redshirt these guys with his job on the line@!