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What happened to this kid getting serious playing time to start the season? Just curious since PB seemed really high on this kid

burned his redshirt in game one. Sat on the bench in game two.

I thought a player could play in the first couple of games but still maintain the redshirt provided they don't play too many series? Anyone know for sure?

No! for the hundredth time. The .20% or 2 1/2 games rule(or something like that) applies to players who are injured.

me@smu wrote:I thought a player could play in the first couple of games but still maintain the redshirt provided they don't play too many series? Anyone know for sure?

Plenty of people know for sure. ONE PLAY BURNS A REDSHIRT!!!

From NCAA:

Each student is allowed no more than four seasons of competition per sport. If you were not a qualifier, you may have fewer seasons of competition available to you. You should know that NCAA rules indicate that any competition, regardless of time, during a season counts as one of your seasons of competition in that sport. It does not matter how long you were involved in a particular competition (for example, one play in a football game, one point in a volleyball match); you will be charged with one season of competition.

Here's a discussion of the rule from last year with regard to Georgia's Matt Stafford. Note the comments about mysterous injuries suffered by freshman after burning their redshirt which has been one of my running jokes since mysterious injuries to Massey and another SMU soon forgotten freshman phenom who suddenly claimed an injury redshirt.


Redshirt rules

I was talking to my dad about whether it's possible to still redshirt Stafford this season so we did some reading on the rules and regulations. If you play a down and don't have an injury, your redshirt is burned. But if you have an injury early in the year and have played less than 20 percent of the season, you can receive an extra year of eligibility by applying for a medical hardship waiver, also known as a medical redshirt. This is an explanation from last year:
"To receive a medical hardship waiver - in any sport - the injury must limit the student-athlete’s participation to no more than 20 percent of the team’s contests (rounded to the next whole number), with all participation occurring in the first half of the season.
Therefore, for a football player, the maximum number of games that he can play in and still receive a medical hardship waiver is three (20 percent of 11 equals 2.2, which is rounded up to 3), and none of his time on the field can occur after the fifth game (the sixth game of an eleven game season is considered in the second half of the season).


Basically unless Stafford gets hurt fairly soon, playing him yesterday means his redshirt season is burned. I may look back at the end of the year and think it was a silly thing to even wonder. Who knows at this point?

Posted by David Ching at 11:01 AM



7 comments:
Dawg 05 said...
Damarius Bilbo pulled this stunt a few years ago, he played in an early game in his freshman year, was supposedly hurt, and took a redshirt.

11:55 AM
Anonymous said...
David, are you a UGA fan?

11:59 AM
David Ching said...
no. I've got nothing against Georgia, but I'm not for or against them.

12:08 PM
Mr. Egger said...
One thing you'll learn Mr. Ching, a surprising amount of true freshman suffer a "back strain", a "pulled hamstring", "severe high ankle sprain", or many other various injuries right about the week after game 3. It's amazing how fragile true freshman become that week.

1:52 PM
David Ching said...
yeah that doesn't surprise me on some bubble players, but I don't think that's the case here, which is what got me curious to begin with.

4:30 PM
Anonymous said...
Turf toe is a good one too. That's the go-to fake injury for many programs across the country.

11:11 AM
Anonymous said...
My question is....why does Michael Turner not try to get a med rs?

Not to muddy the waters on this, but yes, I think you have to have an injury, but I thought at least before the initial eligibility runs out, the 3 game thing was basically decided by the conference and not the NCAA. So, yes, you have to have an injury, but it isn't the same as complying with the medical hardship waiver after all the eligibility is used up a la Flanigan.

Does the college have to designate who is a red shirt or if you simply don't get on the field do you automatically get given redshirt status provided you hadn't had one before?

me@smu wrote:Not that it makes sense to do, but can a player whose red shirt year was burned red shirt the following year? Also does the college have to designate who is a red shirt or if you simply don't get on the field do you automatically get given redshirt status provided you hadn't had one before?

You have 5 years to play 4. You can redshirt any year by just not playing. If you do not play 2 years in a row, one year would be redshirt and one year would be [deleted] and moaning to get in a game.

the university retains the right to award the 5th year redshirt. It happens all the time that kids might not get a redshirt year because-well-he ain't good enough and he's taking up scholarship space.

I suspect the trainer will be looking very carefully at these kids in the next few weeks. I wonder if acute goin fungus is grounds for a medical redshirt? A mean case of jock itch can be really debillitating.