Norm on the SMU situation

OR-See-Nee · Post by **OR-See-Nee** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 10:47 am

On the Ticket today, Norm said, amongst other things:

--This SMU program has been a deadbeat for 2 decades.
--Since Gregg, the record is 54-143-3 (200 games).
--27.7% winner during last 200 games.
--Beaten 1 ranked team since '86
--Numbers of negativity are everywhere.
--For Bennett, the day he got fired was last year against Rice. 1st and Goal at 1; fail to get into the end zone. If beat Rice, record is 7-5 and in a bowl. This is the story of PB's tenure.
--SMU doesn't care about what bowl it is; SMU would take any bowl just to say they went to a bowl.
--In '03, several of the games could have been won (Nevada, Baylor, UTEP). Next year, collapse to UTEP. Lose in '05 to Marshall in OT. Tulsa scores on 65 yd td pass. This goes on and on.
--SMU could have been 9-3 last year. Blew 10 pt lead to UH, blew lead to UTEP.
--If you look at PB era, you can find 15 games they could have won. There were so many close calls.
--Frito: that's what you say about losing teams: woulda, coulda, shoulda.
--Same things keep happening at SMU.
--Norm: Who wants this job? Not up and coming assistants. Mid-major conference coaches might want this job. Unthinkable for a head coach at Boise, etc. to want this job.
--Coker, Mason have been through programs and they might want to come here. Why would Applewhite take the SMU job? He's OC at Bama, and no offense to SMU, but SMU is a program more likely to kill your career. Look at last four coaches. If you don't win at SMU, unlikely to coach elsewhere. PB is likely to get a gig, but the young, upcoming assitant coach in BCS school, there is no reason for a person to take this job.

--Phone calls:
--Terry Donahue, David Cutliff, Terry Bowden, Tommy Weatherby, Bill Cower (forgive my spelling). Norm: Donahue is too old; Bowden ok; Weatherby might be interested. Look for former coaches some place else.
--Why not wait to season's end to fire PB? SMU didn't want spector of weekly hanging. If he's gone, he's gone. PB and everyone knew it and to carry on a smiling charade, not the right thing to do.
--Is this about the best job Fran could get now? Norm: maybe. Would SMU have a coach before Fran is dismissed? A$M might go to a bowl game, but if he is dismissed, someone like Fran would be on the docket here. I don't see Fran meshing with Orsini and what Orsini wants for the program. O said he wants previous head coaching experience. Smaller to mid sized schools will be interested; this is a difficult job to search for, because it's a coach killer job. Candidates need to come in with eyes wide open. I don't know anyone who has been a 27% loser for 20 years.

Pony94 · Post by **Pony94** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 10:49 am

Wow...you take great shorthand....impressive.

SmooBoy · Post by **SmooBoy** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 10:50 am

How the flip can you type all of this up so fast?

SmooBoy · Post by **SmooBoy** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 10:51 am

At least we got to hear Peruna play as a lead in...

Insane_Pony_Posse · Post by **Insane_Pony_Posse** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 10:55 am

Didn't hear it all.

But it sounded like the typical defeatist attitude.

Sure some of what he says is true.

But the right guy can change a lot of that.

Glad Orsini is AD and not Norm.

mr. pony · Post by **mr. pony** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 11:08 am

yeah, you should have heard the Hard Liners yesterday. Same crap. It's a dead end job, etc.

RGV Pony · Post by **RGV Pony** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 11:09 am

Charlie Weatherbie was Paul Johnson before Paul Johnson was Paul Johnson. Not sure what happened, but I think he even turned down Baylor at one point. He's since been exiled to ULa-Monroe. No thanks.

LakeHighlandsPony · Post by **LakeHighlandsPony** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 11:25 am

If your a coach who wants to insure his legacy as a great coach then what better accolade then to say"I turned around SMU when no one else could". Coaches have huge ego's and they want a challenge. Butch Davis could have had alot of jobs but UNC? Spurrier to perennial doormat SC? Alot of people would like this job-don't listen to baldy.

Insane_Pony_Posse · Post by **Insane_Pony_Posse** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 11:25 am

"Charlie Weatherbie is the head football coach at Louisiana Monroe.

He had a troubled coaching stretch from 2000 to 2004, when he went 2-26 in his last 28 games, due to the previous poor recruiting of former coaches.

In 2005, he led the then ULM Indians to a co-championship in the Sun Belt Conference.

Since this time Weatherbie has had a record of 5-13, including a recent 31-21 loss at winless North Texas."

sweetlady · Post by **sweetlady** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 11:27 am

what about Dak Nyguen (not sure how to spell it) He is at every game and practice etc...etc....rumors last year he was going to coach at SMU.

Post by **SmooPower** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 11:31 am

I don't know anyone who has been a 27% loser for 20 years.

SMU is at .319 over the past 20 years (1987-2006). .306 if you go from 1988 to this year.

Schools that are worst over the past 20 years: Duke (.280), New Mexico State (.280), Vanderbilt (.278), Kent State (.244), Temple (.210).

Billy Joe · Post by **Billy Joe** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 11:33 am

The quality of coaches interviewed will depend on the amount of money SMU is throwing around......money talks. A coach could have a great time turning this program into a winner making a few million a year.

sweetlady · Post by **sweetlady** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 11:34 am

sweetlady wrote:what about Dak Nyguen (not sure how to spell it) He is at every game and practice etc...etc....rumors last year he was going to coach at SMU.

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EastStang · Post by **EastStang** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 11:39 am

It think he's referring to another ex-Aggie linebacker Dat Nguyen who played linebacker for the Cowboys.

mrydel · Post by **mrydel** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 11:39 am

EastStang wrote:It think he's referring to another ex-Aggie linebacker Dat Nguyen who played linebacker for the Cowboys.

She was talking to herself.