"Kragthorpe won't comment on SMU rumors"
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 12:06 amPage 1 of 1
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 12:06 amPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 12:09 amPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 12:15 amGood...as of 11/20 SMU has not contacted either Kragthorpe or his AD. If the announcement is supposed to take place Sunday, that doesn't leave much time for working out the details of a contract. Welcome to SMU Fran. 
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 12:22 amPK wrote:Good...as of 11/20 SMU has not contacted either Kragthorpe or his AD. If the announcement is supposed to take place Sunday, that doesn't leave much time for working out the details of a contract. Welcome to SMU Fran. :D
if Krag cant get UL to a bowl game, then im sure its a done deal
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 12:25 am[quote="PK"]Good...as of 11/20 SMU has not contacted either Kragthorpe or his AD. If the announcement is supposed to take place Sunday, that doesn't leave much time for working out the details of a contract. Welcome to SMU Fran. [/quote]................In a coaching search, AD's will probably be dealing with agents instead of direct contact with a potential new coach who already has a job.
[/quote]................In a coaching search, AD's will probably be dealing with agents instead of direct contact with a potential new coach who already has a job.Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 12:26 amIf that happens, then we are toast.J.T.supporta wrote:PK wrote:Good...as of 11/20 SMU has not contacted either Kragthorpe or his AD. If the announcement is supposed to take place Sunday, that doesn't leave much time for working out the details of a contract. Welcome to SMU Fran.
if Krag cant get UL to a bowl game, then im sure its a done deal
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 12:29 amI'm aware of that, but it doesn't fit into the theme of my post.westexSMU wrote:................In a coaching search, AD's will probably be dealing with agents instead of direct contact with a potential new coach who already has a job.PK wrote:Good...as of 11/20 SMU has not contacted either Kragthorpe or his AD. If the announcement is supposed to take place Sunday, that doesn't leave much time for working out the details of a contract. Welcome to SMU Fran.
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 12:31 ami think the interesting part is the department is talking about it:
"University of Louisville sports information director Rocco Gasparro tells WHAS11’s Kyle Draper that there is a fifty-fifty chance that Kragthorpe would leave Louisville for the vacant head-coaching job at Southern Methodist University. "
"University of Louisville sports information director Rocco Gasparro tells WHAS11’s Kyle Draper that there is a fifty-fifty chance that Kragthorpe would leave Louisville for the vacant head-coaching job at Southern Methodist University. "
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 12:32 amcontracts dont have to be finalized before an announcment can be made look at tubby smith he accepted the job at minnesota right after he resigned and didnt sign a contract till two weeks ago
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 12:34 amperunaman24 wrote:contracts dont have to be finalized before an announcment can be made look at tubby smith he accepted the job at minnesota right after he resigned and didnt sign a contract till two weeks ago
bill gilspie still doesnt have a true contract
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 12:35 amDarth just might have to stay for a bit while longer.....
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 12:58 amwestexSMU wrote:In a coaching search, AD's will probably be dealing with agents instead of direct contact with a potential new coach who already has a job.
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 1:16 amI tell you what...if Kragthorpe turns out to be the coach announced by Orsini, I'll never believe another thing Orsini says. He stated that we were going to hire the best coach available. With all the coaches out there that are available, there is no way Kragthorpe is the best available. Relatively speaking, he is only marginally better than PB. He has been a BCS coach for one year and evidently can't hack it. SMU is having a hard time getting any high profile recruits to look at us because of our status as a perennial loser program. Only a WOW type coach is going to get us serious looks from those high profile recruits and Kragthorpe isn't one of those WOW type names.
It doesn't matter who the next coach is, it is going to take a few years to build the talent level depth up to a level that will allow us to dominate and make strides to top 25 status. Did Tulsa ever reach that level? C-USA title sure, but top 25? Get real, Kragthorpe is not going to propel us to that level. I truly hope this whole thing with Kragthorpe is just BS, because right now I am livid at the thought of it.
It doesn't matter who the next coach is, it is going to take a few years to build the talent level depth up to a level that will allow us to dominate and make strides to top 25 status. Did Tulsa ever reach that level? C-USA title sure, but top 25? Get real, Kragthorpe is not going to propel us to that level. I truly hope this whole thing with Kragthorpe is just BS, because right now I am livid at the thought of it.
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 7:01 amI don't think K is it either, at least I hope not. He is marginally better than PB, but what is the media and fan response to SMU hiring a one-year coach with a probable losing record, even in a BCS conference?
I think we need to pay attention to Stallion on this one (and Orsini needs to pay attention to Stallion as well). I don't have time to research these issues, but Stallion apparently does. K was not the true success behind the Tulsa program. Stallion made an impressive case that PB wasn't a great DC before he came here.
One thing Orsini promised in the DMN chat to my question of "baggage" that candidates bring is that he will dig down deep to examine those issues.
I hope he digs deep to examine the coaching and recruiting issues, also.
K does not equal "wow."
I think we need to pay attention to Stallion on this one (and Orsini needs to pay attention to Stallion as well). I don't have time to research these issues, but Stallion apparently does. K was not the true success behind the Tulsa program. Stallion made an impressive case that PB wasn't a great DC before he came here.
One thing Orsini promised in the DMN chat to my question of "baggage" that candidates bring is that he will dig down deep to examine those issues.
I hope he digs deep to examine the coaching and recruiting issues, also.
K does not equal "wow."
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 8:52 amDidn't Dwan say this was a done deal and that it would be a Doherty-type hire? Kragthorpe is not a Doherty-type hire.
Oh, and Sunshine Pony, with your obvious support and perpetuation of the Kragthorpe to SMU rumor...Do you actually think he is the guy SMU should bring in? Is this a WOW hire in your opinion? Since you are "on the inside" about Kragthorpe, what makes him so appealing to Orsini & Co.?
Oh, and Sunshine Pony, with your obvious support and perpetuation of the Kragthorpe to SMU rumor...Do you actually think he is the guy SMU should bring in? Is this a WOW hire in your opinion? Since you are "on the inside" about Kragthorpe, what makes him so appealing to Orsini & Co.?