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Postby biggin » Sun Nov 25, 2007 10:59 am

Someone called me doom and gloom. I'm not trying to be. Just trying to keep it real. We need more people to keep it real on this board.

When I first met Orsini and observed him he seemed very in command and dynamic. Yet he looked meek and unsure of himself the last two times I saw him interviewed during our games about the coaching change. I know I'm not the only one who didn't get a good feeling listening to him talk yesterday about how the search was going. As much as I hate to say it this plays right into my analysis that he is striking out and forced to wait until everyone else gets the pick of the litter.

Before I get bashed this is just ANOTHER indication of how the search is going. By no means is my analysis based simply on Orsini's behavior. As I have said, among other things, I have both direct and indirect information on the interest in this job from would be candidates. I also would be hearing things if the selection had been made.

Moral of the story - Don't get your expectations up and be happy if SMU lands a decent hire.
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Postby gostangs » Sun Nov 25, 2007 11:05 am

If you think it is going poorly - it just proves you have no contact with anyone who knows anything.

Only the immature or ignorant would expect this job to be filled immediately. We are 30 days through a 60 day process. We have several good prospects because we are paying up this time.
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Re: Orsini

Postby Bergermeister » Sun Nov 25, 2007 11:13 am

biggin wrote:Someone called me doom and gloom. I'm not trying to be. Just trying to keep it real. We need more people to keep it real on this board.

When I first met Orsini and observed him he seemed very in command and dynamic. Yet he looked meek and unsure of himself the last two times I saw him interviewed during our games about the coaching change. I know I'm not the only one who didn't get a good feeling listening to him talk yesterday about how the search was going. As much as I hate to say it this plays right into my analysis that he is striking out and forced to wait until everyone else gets the pick of the litter.

Before I get bashed this is just ANOTHER indication of how the search is going. By no means is my analysis based simply on Orsini's behavior. As I have said, among other things, I have both direct and indirect information on the interest in this job from would be candidates. I also would be hearing things if the selection had been made.

Moral of the story - Don't get your expectations up and be happy if SMU lands a decent hire.

You are absolutely clueless. Clueless.
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Postby biggin » Sun Nov 25, 2007 11:22 am

gostangs wrote:If you think it is going poorly - it just proves you have no contact with anyone who knows anything.

Only the immature or ignorant would expect this job to be filled immediately. We are 30 days through a 60 day process. We have several good prospects because we are paying up this time.


See I think the immature and ignorant are the ones who have nothing but blind faith in the guy in red coat to deliver Urban Meyer from behind the curtain when the smoke clears. Tell me why they are only "good prospects" now 5 weeks after Bennett got fired. The advantage of firing bennett in the middle of the season has been squandered. Do you think Nebraska will take 5 weeks to hire their next coach?

I'm not blaming Orsini - he cannot help the lack of interest in this job - butg it is a bit ridiculous to listen to him talk and actually think he's even in the right zip code. Especially when I know coach candidates who would not even walk accross the street to interview at SMU.

Good luck though.
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Postby Treadway21 » Sun Nov 25, 2007 11:30 am

YOu get bashed because you hide behind a cocky screen name and spout off like you are someone, but you have nothing but your informal poll of mysterious contacts. Orsini has a track record, so if you don't mind I'll put my faith in a guy who has done it before rater than an anonymous a--hole posting on a fan board. Where were you before PB got fired? Why don't you lay out what you supposedly know rather than using innuendo and you may gain some credibility.

And you may be right, but you haven't said anything that leads me to believe you are not just taking a shot in the dark.
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Postby mrydel » Sun Nov 25, 2007 11:30 am

Funny that when I talk to him I get the impression of extreme confidence and even a little smuggness in his attitude, especially when questioned about his job. I think he knew from the outset that Meyer was going to stay at Florida, but if that is you basis for his dismay, then so be it. I still believe he has had his deal done for some time now. It may not be someone you like and it may or may not be a WOW depending on who you want, but he is not lacking for confidence during the process.
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Postby biggin » Sun Nov 25, 2007 11:39 am

Treadway21 wrote:YOu get bashed because you hide behind a [deleted] screen name and spout off like you are someone, but you have nothing but your informal poll of mysterious contacts. Orsini has a track record, so if you don't mind I'll put my faith in a guy who has done it before rater than an anonymous a--hole posting on a fan board. Where were you before PB got fired? Why don't you lay out what you supposedly know rather than using innuendo and you may gain some credibility.

And you may be right, but you haven't said anything that leads me to believe you are not just taking a shot in the dark.


T21 - I have laid out previously certain people that I have talked to. I will not continue to drop names and as I have also said I don't have access or information on all who might be considered. I will say that Terry Bowden is not interested in us at this point. Like everyone else, I am just putting together the pieces of the puzzle - I just probably have more pieces than others.
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Postby bigdaddy08091 » Sun Nov 25, 2007 11:55 am

mrydel wrote:Funny that when I talk to him I get the impression of extreme confidence and even a little smuggness in his attitude, especially when questioned about his job. I think he knew from the outset that Meyer was going to stay at Florida, but if that is you basis for his dismay, then so be it. I still believe he has had his deal done for some time now. It may not be someone you like and it may or may not be a WOW depending on who you want, but he is not lacking for confidence during the process.


I agree. Orsini had his man when he was hired. Or better yet, he had his list of men. Now did he know there were gonna be so many job openings across the country? I would say he did, just because he knows this business. Business men like Orsini always keep a trump card. He is not gonna be left looking like an idiot. Sit back and relax.
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Postby gostangs » Sun Nov 25, 2007 11:57 am

From what I have seen, on the contrary - you have several pieces missing from your puzzle.
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Postby bigdaddy08091 » Sun Nov 25, 2007 12:05 pm

gostangs wrote:From what I have seen, on the contrary - you have several pieces missing from your puzzle.


You have seen about as much as everyone else, nothing! Keep reading the papers and different blogs and you will continue to see nothing. Hiring a coach is not a puzzle.

But I would be happy to hear your jigsaw riddle.
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Postby couch 'em » Sun Nov 25, 2007 12:58 pm

At no time, whether in person or on tv, have the words "meek" or "unsure" ever come to my mind while viewing Orsini. That is the silliest thing I've ever heard.
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Postby SoCal_Pony » Sun Nov 25, 2007 1:02 pm

This is an opinion board. Biggin is merely stating his opinion, which I think is more thought-out than many.

I happen to agree that if a coach is not hired within the next few days, he is probably correct in his assessment.
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Postby OC Mustang » Sun Nov 25, 2007 1:08 pm

SoCal_Pony wrote:This is an opinion board. Biggin is merely stating his opinion, which I think is more thought-out than many.

I happen to agree that if a coach is not hired within the next few days, he is probably correct in his assessment.


Duly noted. So we wait...on pins and needles, we wait.
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Postby Hoop Fan » Sun Nov 25, 2007 1:10 pm

riddle me this. For those that think Orsini is just a masterful pokerface and can't be read in any way, tell me what his motivation was yesterday. It was no longer respect for Bennett. At halftime of the last game, you could start to let that go. In my opinion, he had no reason not to throw the faithful a bone and let on some excitement. Instead he downplayed and talked about the "coaching market". to me, that is code for some things are out of his control and we don't have a deal with anyone.
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Postby bigdaddy08091 » Sun Nov 25, 2007 1:28 pm

Hoop Fan wrote:riddle me this. For those that think Orsini is just a masterful pokerface and can't be read in any way, tell me what his motivation was yesterday. It was no longer respect for Bennett. At halftime of the last game, you could start to let that go. In my opinion, he had no reason not to throw the faithful a bone and let on some excitement. Instead he downplayed and talked about the "coaching market". to me, that is code for some things are out of his control and we don't have a deal with anyone.


Orsini could care less about the faithful. He is conducting business in a business like fashion. On a Saturday night in Memphis, TN he is suppose to leak the SMU coaching candidates. C'mon hoop fan, some of these coaches may still have games to play? Let's keep is business like. I do believe he has his coach. Had him when he was hired. Trace his background and you will find your coach.
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