Paul Johnson race
Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 5:55 pmis SMU vs. Duke.
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Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 5:55 pmPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 5:58 pmNo contest, SMU wins 8 days a week, particularly given the handling of the lacrosse debacle at Duke
Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 6:02 pmYes but more importantly it is a basketball school first.
The one thing they offer we can't do anything about is location.
The one thing they offer we can't do anything about is location.
Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 6:02 pmfirephil wrote:No contest, SMU wins 8 days a week, particularly given the handling of the lacrosse debacle at Duke
This is the way it should go down.
Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 6:08 pmNo question, you take the BCS job for the same money.
Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 6:10 pmjtstang wrote:No question, you take the BCS job for the same money.
Unless you really think winning is impossible there...
Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 6:12 pmStangEsq wrote:jtstang wrote:No question, you take the BCS job for the same money.
Unless you really think winning is impossible there...
Or if you worry you might be used as a scapegoat when a small problem gets blown entirely out of proportion...
Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 6:13 pmCoaches of revenue sports are untouchable at Duke as far as the lacrosse scenario. And why is winning Duke any more unlikely than winning at SMU?
Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 6:15 pmChallenge on the first topic, and BCS conference may be a little tougher than c-usa. And there are numerous other reasons a coach would pick smu over duke. This thread is a waste.
Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 6:17 pmfirephil wrote: And there are numerous other reasons a coach would pick smu over duke.
No, there aren't.
Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 6:20 pmthe offer allegedly coming from Duke is a broad based offer including 2 Million a year, reduction in scholarship restrictions and stadium improvements. I''d say without question the Duke job is the better job. I'm sure firephil would have concluded that SMU is a better job than Wake Forest a few years ago. If Johnson wants to prove his offense will work at Big Schools then he's got to take the Challenge.
Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 6:25 pmWinning is not impossible at Duke, Spurrier and Fred Goldsmith won there. And Duke's boosters have just as much if not more money than SMU's monied alums to get PJ.
But PJ should consider that even if he wins at Duke, Coach K and b-ball will always be the BMOC. If PJ wins at SMU. SMU will build a statue of him next to Doak Walker's. And name the field after him...
And let's not kid ourselves here. If PJ comes to SMU, max years he's on the Hilltop is 5, 3 if wins big time.
PJ is relatively young but if he wins here he can write his ticket to the next big job that opens up.
The risk/reward for the SMU job is high. If PJ does the unthinkable and succeeds at SMU, he will be hailed as a legend in the annals of CFB history, if he fails he'll be another failed post DP coach and end up as an OC at some BCS school or go back as an HC to one of the service academies.
But PJ should consider that even if he wins at Duke, Coach K and b-ball will always be the BMOC. If PJ wins at SMU. SMU will build a statue of him next to Doak Walker's. And name the field after him...
And let's not kid ourselves here. If PJ comes to SMU, max years he's on the Hilltop is 5, 3 if wins big time.
PJ is relatively young but if he wins here he can write his ticket to the next big job that opens up.
The risk/reward for the SMU job is high. If PJ does the unthinkable and succeeds at SMU, he will be hailed as a legend in the annals of CFB history, if he fails he'll be another failed post DP coach and end up as an OC at some BCS school or go back as an HC to one of the service academies.
Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 6:25 pmStallion wrote:the offer allegedly coming from Duke is a broad based offer including 2 Million a year, reduction in scholarship restrictions and stadium improvements. I''d say without question the Duke job is the better job. I'm sure firephil would have concluded that SMU is a better job than Wake Forest a few years ago. If Johnson wants to prove his offense will work at Big Schools then he's got to take the Challenge.
Please dont put words in my mouth. you are pathetic
Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 6:30 pmDook has a [deleted] poor stadium, essentially no local fan base, and sub par facilities. It's a basketball school that can't compete w/the local programs, and won't be able to for years and years.
The academic restrictions are already fairly lenient based on some of the players running through the hoops program, so that angle is a farce. DFW is far more talent rich than the triangle, and SMU can make a run in CUSA, a lot sooner than Dook in the ACC. Either job is stepping stone, don't confuse Dook w/being an end destination b/c its ACC. If anything, he'd have to have a measure of success in the ACC, just to get a true BCS offer. Much harder than winning at SMU, to get that same offer.
The academic restrictions are already fairly lenient based on some of the players running through the hoops program, so that angle is a farce. DFW is far more talent rich than the triangle, and SMU can make a run in CUSA, a lot sooner than Dook in the ACC. Either job is stepping stone, don't confuse Dook w/being an end destination b/c its ACC. If anything, he'd have to have a measure of success in the ACC, just to get a true BCS offer. Much harder than winning at SMU, to get that same offer.
Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 6:38 pmfirephil wrote:StangEsq wrote:jtstang wrote:No question, you take the BCS job for the same money.
Unless you really think winning is impossible there...
Or if you worry you might be used as a scapegoat when a small problem gets blown entirely out of proportion...
Think about that. Do you really think SMU would have handled that situation any better?