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Water Pony wrote:First, despite not getting Paul Johnson, Steve Orsini's efforts were impressive in his energy and focus to attract one of the hot prospects this year. Hard to argue with GT being more attractive, for all the reasons a BCS school and conference can offer and it being in his old backyard.

Steve O's strategy appeared to almost work. If GT had not come on strong, who knows what would have happened. PJ is a quality coach and SMU as a real option feels good, when you consider that our performance for the last twenty years.

Now, Steve and SMU have sent a strong message to the FB Coaching fraternity that we are a serious player in attracting a first class coach. Whatever direction we go, it feels like it is likely please most of us, recruits and our Dallas market.

Ultimately, Steve needed to change the game for us to be considered attractive. His first steps appear aggressive ($) and are well planned out. Can't say I know where it is headed, but I choose to be optimistic with Steve driving the herd.

Any impatience or disappointment is understandable, but hardly the main point in this critical search. The game is changing and SMU FB will be better for it.

SMU89 wrote:
Agree.

Only thing I would add is that Steve knew there would be an x% chance that we actually get PJ when he went after him.

Water Pony wrote:First, despite not getting Paul Johnson, Steve Orsini's efforts were impressive in his energy and focus to attract one of the hot prospects this year. Hard to argue with GT being more attractive, for all the reasons a BCS school and conference can offer and it being in his old backyard.

Steve O's strategy appeared to almost work. If GT had not come on strong, who knows what would have happened. PJ is a quality coach and SMU as a real option feels good, when you consider that our performance for the last twenty years.

Now, Steve and SMU have sent a strong message to the FB Coaching fraternity that we are a serious player in attracting a first class coach. Whatever direction we go, it feels like it is likely please most of us, recruits and our Dallas market.

Another empathy post. Good Lord people stay off the board with this [deleted]. We don't have a coach. Okay, give Little Stevie an E for effort. Hell give the team an E for effort. We don't have a coach! We are not recruiting, we have players on campus with no direction, HS players not even considering SMU ( Not Even The 1 & 2 Star Recruits), players wondering when and you post some empathy [deleted]. Hey, the Patriots are playing and Driving MIss Daisy is on. GET OFF THE BOARD!

Ultimately, Steve needed to change the game for us to be considered attractive. His first steps appear aggressive ($) and are well planned out. Can't say I know where it is headed, but I choose to be optimistic with Steve driving the herd.

Any impatience or disappointment is understandable, but hardly the main point in this critical search. The game is changing and SMU FB will be better for it.

Hoop Fan wrote:

SMU89 wrote:
Agree.

Only thing I would add is that Steve knew there would be an x% chance that we actually get PJ when he went after him.

so did the rest of us. time is of the essence. why waste it?

SMU89 wrote:

Hoop Fan wrote:

SMU89 wrote:
Agree.

Only thing I would add is that Steve knew there would be an x% chance that we actually get PJ when he went after him.

so did the rest of us. time is of the essence. why waste it?

Why hurry to be financially committed to a bad coach for the next 5 years?

We are not signing someone at the $500k/yr level anymore.

Hoop Fan wrote:

SMU89 wrote:

Hoop Fan wrote:

SMU89 wrote:
Agree.

Only thing I would add is that Steve knew there would be an x% chance that we actually get PJ when he went after him.

so did the rest of us. time is of the essence. why waste it?

Why hurry to be financially committed to a bad coach for the next 5 years?

We are not signing someone at the $500k/yr level anymore.

who said anything about committing anything to a bad coach? What kind of straw man argument is this? Still need to get on with signing a good coach and not losing a year of recruiting that this program can most certainly not afford to lose.

SMU89 wrote:

Hoop Fan wrote:

SMU89 wrote:

Hoop Fan wrote:

SMU89 wrote:
Agree.

Only thing I would add is that Steve knew there would be an x% chance that we actually get PJ when he went after him.

so did the rest of us. time is of the essence. why waste it?

Why hurry to be financially committed to a bad coach for the next 5 years?

We are not signing someone at the $500k/yr level anymore.

who said anything about committing anything to a bad coach? What kind of straw man argument is this? Still need to get on with signing a good coach and not losing a year of recruiting that this program can most certainly not afford to lose.

Wish things were as easy as implied, but they aren't.

Negotiations don't move at your pace.

You are dealing with multiple people and multiple parties all of which are not on your timeline.

So to be quicker as you would like, you can throw your hands in the air and go to the next guy on your list (less desirable coach) or try to close the deal with the more preferred.

Hoop Fan wrote:

SMU89 wrote:

Hoop Fan wrote:

SMU89 wrote:

Hoop Fan wrote:

SMU89 wrote:
Agree.

Only thing I would add is that Steve knew there would be an x% chance that we actually get PJ when he went after him.

so did the rest of us. time is of the essence. why waste it?

Why hurry to be financially committed to a bad coach for the next 5 years?

We are not signing someone at the $500k/yr level anymore.

who said anything about committing anything to a bad coach? What kind of straw man argument is this? Still need to get on with signing a good coach and not losing a year of recruiting that this program can most certainly not afford to lose.

Wish things were as easy as implied, but they aren't.

Negotiations don't move at your pace.

You are dealing with multiple people and multiple parties all of which are not on your timeline.

So to be quicker as you would like, you can throw your hands in the air and go to the next guy on your list (less desirable coach) or try to close the deal with the more preferred.

you yourself suggested PJ was a longshot and Orsini knew it. You tell me what kind of sense that makes to focus on longshots. And make your ultimate hire a clear second choice in the process. sorry, none.

Hoop Fan wrote:as long as we did not delay the process or forego any good options due to the longshot flirtation with PJ. Better to have a good candidate now than a marginally better (albeit subjective) candidate two weeks from now. Thing is, PJ was not even a clearcut best fit for this job anyway.

Water Pony wrote:

Hoop Fan wrote:as long as we did not delay the process or forego any good options due to the longshot flirtation with PJ. Better to have a good candidate now than a marginally better (albeit subjective) candidate two weeks from now. Thing is, PJ was not even a clearcut best fit for this job anyway.

Good recap. We need a coach, who has a formula for success specifically designed for SMU. Our needs are significant and the solution needs to be urgently applied. Hiring the right guy is not as urgent as his formula for success