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New to this board as I am a UH fan. Just wanted to come here and get some take on how you all are taking in this June Jones crap... lol

We'll definitely miss June Jones and he has turned our program from doodoo, to Bronze.. LoL...

If he does end up at SMU, I'll be rooting for you guys. I love success stories and underdogs making it big time.

Good luck to SMU Football 2008!!!

95 Boyz wrote:If he does end up at SMU, I'll be rooting for you guys. I love success stories and underdogs making it big time.

Welcome to the board and thanks for the well wishes.

95 Boyz wrote:New to this board as I am a UH fan. Just wanted to come here and get some take on how you all are taking in this June Jones crap... lol

We'll definitely miss June Jones and he has turned our program from doodoo, to Bronze.. LoL...

If he does end up at SMU, I'll be rooting for you guys. I love success stories and underdogs making it big time.

Good luck to SMU Football 2008!!!

I know its tough losing your coach, but it might wake up a few administrators and politicians over there to make the necessary changes needed for your program to attain the next level that June was aiming for. If that happens, it will work out in the long run for your school, but I know that it hurts deeply in the short run.

Ponymon wrote:

95 Boyz wrote:New to this board as I am a UH fan. Just wanted to come here and get some take on how you all are taking in this June Jones crap... lol

We'll definitely miss June Jones and he has turned our program from doodoo, to Bronze.. LoL...

If he does end up at SMU, I'll be rooting for you guys. I love success stories and underdogs making it big time.

Good luck to SMU Football 2008!!!

I know its tough losing your coach, but it might wake up a few administrators and politicians over there to make the necessary changes needed for your program to attain the next level that June was aiming for. If that happens, it will work out in the long run for your school, but I know that it hurts deeply in the short run.

That's what we've thought. Jones has been trying for the last 9 years to get the facilities up to par, and each year they just lie to him. Nothing has been done and I doubt anything will ever be done. If 9years of begging doesn't cut it, I don't think anything will.

95 Boyz wrote:

Ponymon wrote:

95 Boyz wrote:New to this board as I am a UH fan. Just wanted to come here and get some take on how you all are taking in this June Jones crap... lol

We'll definitely miss June Jones and he has turned our program from doodoo, to Bronze.. LoL...

If he does end up at SMU, I'll be rooting for you guys. I love success stories and underdogs making it big time.

Good luck to SMU Football 2008!!!

I know its tough losing your coach, but it might wake up a few administrators and politicians over there to make the necessary changes needed for your program to attain the next level that June was aiming for. If that happens, it will work out in the long run for your school, but I know that it hurts deeply in the short run.

That's what we've thought. Jones has been trying for the last 9 years to get the facilities up to par, and each year they just lie to him. Nothing has been done and I doubt anything will ever be done. If 9years of begging doesn't cut it, I don't think anything will.

Just a question. What does facilities have to do with winning? Going 12-1 is going 12-1, whether you do it in a condo or in a dump. Have you ever been to Penn State and looked at their facilities? Nothing to brag about there. We have the best facilities pound for pound in the nation and can't get to a bowl. IMHO the facilities have nothing to do with it. JJ was ready to go due to nothing else to accomplish there.

Same thing that recruiting and player development have to do with winning...

95 Boyz wrote:New to this board as I am a UH fan. Just wanted to come here and get some take on how you all are taking in this June Jones crap... lol

We'll definitely miss June Jones and he has turned our program from doodoo, to Bronze.. LoL...

If he does end up at SMU, I'll be rooting for you guys. I love success stories and underdogs making it big time.

Good luck to SMU Football 2008!!!

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StangEsq wrote:Same thing that recruiting and player development have to do with winning...

I will say it again. If a player is not developed in HS he is not even recruited, unless he is a Herman Johnson and stands 6-8 and weighs 400lbs coming out of HS. If you can't block, tackle, catch, throw and run coming out of HS you are cheering in the stands or playing flag. Players play for winning programs and winning coaches. The recruiting coordinators at the top BCS schools are figure heads. They compete for players with who has the most to offer, who they are recruiting and playing time right now. SMU is one of the few schools that develope talent. The rest train talented players. Like film room, weight room, etc...

bigdaddy08091 wrote:

StangEsq wrote:Same thing that recruiting and player development have to do with winning...

I will say it again. If a player is not developed in HS he is not even recruited, unless he is a Herman Johnson and stands 6-8 and weighs 400lbs coming out of HS. If you can't block, tackle, catch, throw and run coming out of HS you are cheering in the stands or playing flag. Players play for winning programs and winning coaches. The recruiting coordinators at the top BCS schools are figure heads. They compete for players with who has the most to offer, who they are recruiting and playing time right now. SMU is one of the few schools that develope talent. The rest train talented players. Like film room, weight room, etc...

AMEN!!!

bigdaddy08091 wrote:If you can't block, tackle, catch, throw and run coming out of HS you are cheering in the stands or playing flag.

Unless you are Chris Simms who shows that height and name alone will get you into the NFL.

bigdaddy08091 wrote:Just a question. What does facilities have to do with winning? Going 12-1 is going 12-1, whether you do it in a condo or in a dump. Have you ever been to Penn State and looked at their facilities? Nothing to brag about there. We have the best facilities pound for pound in the nation and can't get to a bowl. IMHO the facilities have nothing to do with it. JJ was ready to go due to nothing else to accomplish there.

I think the issue is that facilities and treating assistant coaches like graduate assistants at best was the straw that broke the camel's back for JJ. Facilities are a selling point just like good coaching, good education, etc. It's not the only thing, but it can be a piece of the puzzle.

And as far as Penn State goes, that program has been kept alive by one Joe Pa. The facilities and administration issues he deals with are minor compared to what Jones has had to put up with the last couple years.

SMUer wrote:

bigdaddy08091 wrote:If you can't block, tackle, catch, throw and run coming out of HS you are cheering in the stands or playing flag.

Unless you are Chris Simms who shows that height and name alone will get you into the NFL.

He was good in college.

bigdaddy08091 wrote:

SMUer wrote:

bigdaddy08091 wrote:If you can't block, tackle, catch, throw and run coming out of HS you are cheering in the stands or playing flag.

Unless you are Chris Simms who shows that height and name alone will get you into the NFL.

He was good in college.

Challenge!!

bigdaddy08091 wrote:

SMUer wrote:

bigdaddy08091 wrote:If you can't block, tackle, catch, throw and run coming out of HS you are cheering in the stands or playing flag.

Unless you are Chris Simms who shows that height and name alone will get you into the NFL.

He was good in college.

Except when it really mattered.

Big Hoss wrote:

bigdaddy08091 wrote:Just a question. What does facilities have to do with winning? Going 12-1 is going 12-1, whether you do it in a condo or in a dump. Have you ever been to Penn State and looked at their facilities? Nothing to brag about there. We have the best facilities pound for pound in the nation and can't get to a bowl. IMHO the facilities have nothing to do with it. JJ was ready to go due to nothing else to accomplish there.

I think the issue is that facilities and treating assistant coaches like graduate assistants at best was the straw that broke the camel's back for JJ. Facilities are a selling point just like good coaching, good education, etc. It's not the only thing, but it can be a piece of the puzzle.

And as far as Penn State goes, that program has been kept alive by one Joe Pa. The facilities and administration issues he deals with are minor compared to what Jones has had to put up with the last couple years.

Every one of the coaches at UH knew what they were getting into before they took the job. Its not like the facilities just went to [deleted] over night. This upgrading facilities is a bunch of bull. The coaches from Hawaii damn sure knew. One of the biggest and best companies in the world operate out of a metal building in Bentonville Ark.