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Southern Miss non conference opponents

PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 6:12 pm
by bubba pony
http://www.footballrumormill.com/scoop.php

"Southern Miss announced a three-game football series with Nebraska 2012, 2013 and 2015. Golden Eagles to travel to Nebraska 2012 and 2015 and the Cornhuskers to Hattiesburg in 2013. … Other than Nebraska, the Golden Eagles have played host to Big 12 institution Oklahoma State, Illinois of the Big 10 Conference, California of the Pacific 10 Conference and North Carolina State of the Atlantic Coast Conference since the 2000 campaign. The Golden Eagles are also slated to play ACC member Virginia in 2009 and Big 12 school Kansas in 2010 at home. – BigGoldNation.com "


Like to see us play some more of the big boys.

Re: Southern Miss non conference opponents

PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 6:48 pm
by ponydawg
bubba pony wrote:Like to see us play some more of the big boys.



Agreed. But first I would like to see us do better than 1-11 without even
playing some of the big boys.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 7:08 pm
by jkflamebo
southern miss AD has iron cladded balls

PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 8:30 pm
by SMU Football Blog
Sigh.

Re: Southern Miss non conference opponents

PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 9:11 pm
by J.T.supporta
bubba pony wrote:http://www.footballrumormill.com/scoop.php

"Southern Miss announced a three-game football series with Nebraska 2012, 2013 and 2015. Golden Eagles to travel to Nebraska 2012 and 2015 and the Cornhuskers to Hattiesburg in 2013. … Other than Nebraska, the Golden Eagles have played host to Big 12 institution Oklahoma State, Illinois of the Big 10 Conference, California of the Pacific 10 Conference and North Carolina State of the Atlantic Coast Conference since the 2000 campaign. The Golden Eagles are also slated to play ACC member Virginia in 2009 and Big 12 school Kansas in 2010 at home. – BigGoldNation.com "


Like to see us play some more of the big boys.


i would love to play that OCC as a NonBCS school. might as well be as competitive as possible before conference starts.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 10:45 pm
by SMU Football Blog
Or, you could schedule soft in order to build confidence and work on technique.

Of course, I am nuts. Nobody agrees with me. Except the current coach and most other coaches that have turned programs around. And Orsini.

Make no mistake, when we were scheduling the big boys a few years ago, it was Copeland's doing at the direction of the of the administration in an effort to curb the deficit to quel the faculty.

So, when you think I am wrong and you want to schedule the "big boys," just remember the company you keep: the faculty.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 10:48 pm
by J.T.supporta
SMU Football Blog wrote:Or, you could schedule soft in order to build confidence and work on technique.

Of course, I am nuts. Nobody agrees with me. Except the current coach and most other coaches that have turned programs around. And Orsini.

Make no mistake, when we were scheduling the big boys a few years ago, it was Copeland's doing at the direction of the of the administration in an effort to curb the deficit to quel the faculty.

So, when you think I am wrong and you want to schedule the "big boys," just remember the company you keep: the faculty.


i understand where you're coming from totally about building a soft OC schedule. its best for the teams that arent in the tops of their conference. ie SMU...but we do schedule a Big XII school every year.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 6:11 pm
by huskerpony
My take on this is that you should ALWAYS have one top opponent non-conference.

You don't get any better without challenging yourself. Plus, it helps with recruiting, brings money into the athletic department, and gets the school some recognition with national television coverage.

Regardless, even if your team sucks, what is the difference if you lose to Arkansas State or to Florida? I'd rather lose to Florida, actually.


There is something to be said for having a softer schedule when getting out of the gutter. However, schedules are made many years in advance, so that isn't really something most schools can predict practically. (Granted, SMU is a special case--and once we are getting to be bowl worthy, that extra win might be necessary.) But still, the hope should be that even if we start scheduling some tougher opponents today, we will be drastically improved by the time we get to that schedule five or six years down the road (and hopefully already have a bowl game under our belt!)

People in Nebraska are furious about the scheduling done by the former AD. He kept one tough game each year, but scheduled Florida Intl's for the other three. While it won't be a bad deal this year while they try to right the ship, they are stuck with it for years. I guess that's what we get for hiring an AD from the Big East! (Same theory the Big 10 uses--and how Ohio St. keeps slipping in the backdoor to lose the NC game.)

......So happy TO is back. Setting up these 2-1 deals was his specialty, and Southern Miss has done it with Nebraska a couple of times. It's a good deal for them, and the games in Hattiesburg are always a little tense!

PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 10:44 pm
by expony18
SMU Football Blog wrote: Nobody agrees with me. Except the current coach.


August 30, 2008
Hawai'i @ Florida

:wink:

PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 12:00 am
by Garret
expony18 wrote:
SMU Football Blog wrote: Nobody agrees with me. Except the current coach.


August 30, 2008
Hawai'i @ Florida

:wink:

JJ always wanted to play a few tough nonconference games each year at Hawaii. Last season Hawaii had a horrible schedule, but that was NOT what JJ wanted. People only remember the weak 2007 schedule, but in 2006 Hawaii played at Alabama, and home vs. Purdue and Oregon State as their nonconference games. In 2008, Hawaii plays at Florida, at Oregon State, and home vs. Washington State and Cinci. So, the 2007 schedule was pretty much just an anomoly.

Little trivia: JJ was working with Leach at Texas Tech to try to get a Hawaii vs. Texas Tech game for quite some time. Hawaii's (now fired) AD actually turned Texas Tech down for a game despite JJ trying hard to get them scheduled. It is nice that JJ will finally get to face Texas Tech...but the SMU team this year will be quite different than the Colt-led WAC Champs last season.

PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 9:50 am
by Stallion
I was about to say that Hawaii's weaker schedule was often the result of top programs wanting no part of Hawaii once they began to play well. didn't UT and USC back out of games and I want to say a Big 10 team like Michigan or was it Michigan St?

PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 10:49 am
by SMU Football Blog
Stallion wrote:I was about to say that Hawaii's weaker schedule was often the result of top programs wanting no part of Hawaii once they began to play well. didn't UT and USC back out of games and I want to say a Big 10 team like Michigan or was it Michigan St?


Lots of schools are willing to play Hawaii at HOME. Nobody with real aspirations these days want any part of Hawaii at Hawaii.

PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 11:34 am
by DiamondM
Next year, we play Navy, a bowl team, Texas Tech, who won their New Year's Day game and are expected to be even better next year, and TCU.

We've added Missouri to the schedule in future years, you know, the one that should have been in the BCS last year. Texas A& M is back on the schedule in 2010 or 11. I'm not sure that having Nebraska on your schedule right now looks all that tough, although with Pelini, they should be better.

So our list of foes since the 2000 season looks at least as good as Souther Miss. Here's the paragraph you could write about SMU:

"SMU announced a home-a-home football series with Missouri in 2009 and 2010. The Mustangs travel to Missouri in 2009 and the Tigers to Dallas in 2010. Other than Missouri, the Mustangs have played host to Big 12 institutions Oklahoma State, Kansas, Baylor, and Texas Tech, and North Carolina State of the Atlantic Coast Conference since the 2000 campaign. SMU is also slated to Big 12 schools Texas Tech in 2008 and Texas A&M in 2011 at home."

PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 11:41 am
by SouthernWebb04
Garret wrote:
expony18 wrote:
SMU Football Blog wrote: Nobody agrees with me. Except the current coach.


August 30, 2008
Hawai'i @ Florida

:wink:

JJ always wanted to play a few tough nonconference games each year at Hawaii. Last season Hawaii had a horrible schedule, but that was NOT what JJ wanted. People only remember the weak 2007 schedule, but in 2006 Hawaii played at Alabama, and home vs. Purdue and Oregon State as their nonconference games. In 2008, Hawaii plays at Florida, at Oregon State, and home vs. Washington State and Cinci. So, the 2007 schedule was pretty much just an anomoly.

Little trivia: JJ was working with Leach at Texas Tech to try to get a Hawaii vs. Texas Tech game for quite some time. Hawaii's (now fired) AD actually turned Texas Tech down for a game despite JJ trying hard to get them scheduled. It is nice that JJ will finally get to face Texas Tech...but the SMU team this year will be quite different than the Colt-led WAC Champs last season.



Of note as well, Hawaii was on the record for playing Michigan last year, but the Wolverines bailed and decided to play, yep the Appalachian State Mountaineers.

PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 12:15 pm
by expony18
Stallion wrote:I was about to say that Hawaii's weaker schedule was often the result of top programs wanting no part of Hawaii once they began to play well. didn't UT and USC back out of games and I want to say a Big 10 team like Michigan or was it Michigan St?
it was michigan and USC. michigan actually backed out of their contract and we all know how that worked out when they replaced them with appalachian state