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Another reason why I am excited about JJ on the Hilltop.

JJ overall record: 97-77 (.557)
college: 75-41 (.647)
pro: 22-36 (.379)

records of other coaches when they arrived on the Hilltop:

Phil Bennett - no experience as a head coach
Mike Cavan - no experience at the Division I-A level
Tom Rossley - no experience as a head coach
Forrest Gregg - 75-85-1 (.469) - all in NFL (didn't count CFL); for percentage, I counted the tie as half a win
Bobby Collins - 48-30-2 (.6125)
Ron Meyer - 27-8 (.771)

You've got to go all the way back to Ron Meyer to find someone with a better college winning percentage than JJ has coming in. RM didn't have that NFL experience that JJ and Forrest Gregg had.

CalallenStang wrote:Another reason why I am excited about JJ on the Hilltop.

JJ overall record: 97-77 (.557)
college: 75-41 (.647)
pro: 22-36 (.379)

One note about his pro record... his first two years in Atlanta, they went 7-9 then 9-7 and a playoff game. So they were 16-16 in two years. His third year, in the 3rd game, he and Jeff George had their infamous blow-up. George never took another snap for the Falcons... they went 3-11 after George was pulled...

His brief stint in San Diego saw him take over as HC once the season was underway, when the SD GM fired the Head Coach. It was too late to install the Run & Shoot... they went 3-7 without JJ being allowed, because of the situation, to run his offense.

So one could conceivably look at his record as being closer to .500... 16-18, when he was running his system under ideal circumstances... and 6-18 without his starting QB and being named as interim coach and unable to run his system...

Just saying...

JJ will go as far as his QB takes him. Minus Colt Brennans last two years off JJ's record and he's almost a .500 coach.

Warbow wrote:JJ will go as far as his QB takes him. Minus Colt Brennans last two years off JJ's record and he's almost a .500 coach.

That's because Hawaii is a good vacation spot, but sucks as a place to go to college. Can't get good QBs out there. Throw a stick in Texas and you hit a dozen good QBs.

jtstang wrote:That's because Hawaii is a good vacation spot, but sucks as a place to go to college. Can't get good QBs out there. Throw a stick in Texas and you hit a dozen good QBs.

great point. how is hawaii football supposed to recruit anyone anyway? it's amazing jj got what he did.

Not to mention probably 75% of the quarterbacks are brought up running some sort of spread offense these days.

jtstang wrote:

Warbow wrote:JJ will go as far as his QB takes him. Minus Colt Brennans last two years off JJ's record and he's almost a .500 coach.

That's because Hawaii is a good vacation spot, but sucks as a place to go to college. Can't get good QBs out there. Throw a stick in Texas and you hit a dozen good QBs.

That's the problem, either Texas QB's are to dumb to get out of the way of the stick or there just to damn slow.

In Hawaii, throw a stick at a QB and you'll either miss or get that stick shoved somewhere the sun don't shine.

weak...

Warbow wrote:

jtstang wrote:

Warbow wrote:JJ will go as far as his QB takes him. Minus Colt Brennans last two years off JJ's record and he's almost a .500 coach.

That's because Hawaii is a good vacation spot, but sucks as a place to go to college. Can't get good QBs out there. Throw a stick in Texas and you hit a dozen good QBs.

That's the problem, either Texas QB's are to dumb to get out of the way of the stick or there just to damn slow.

In Hawaii, throw a stick at a QB and you'll either miss or get that stick shoved somewhere the sun don't shine.

Oh, that was cute.

Just look at all the QBs that came from the state of Texas that are making an impact around college football at not just the Texas schools like Todd Reising- Kansas, Matt Stafford- Georgia, Matt Flynn- LSU, Ryan Mallet who recently transfered from Michigan but played as a true freshmen. Texas produces the best qb's in the state by far. SMU with this system should be able to find a pretty good Qb especially with a coach like June Jones.

Warbow wrote:

jtstang wrote:

Warbow wrote:JJ will go as far as his QB takes him. Minus Colt Brennans last two years off JJ's record and he's almost a .500 coach.

That's because Hawaii is a good vacation spot, but sucks as a place to go to college. Can't get good QBs out there. Throw a stick in Texas and you hit a dozen good QBs.

That's the problem, either Texas QB's are to dumb to get out of the way of the stick or there just to damn slow.

In Hawaii, throw a stick at a QB and you'll either miss or get that stick shoved somewhere the sun don't shine.

Doesn't matter in Hawaii because you already admitted that good QBs are practically non-existent when you admitted Jones's only had one good QB (you know, the one who got him over being an almost .500 coach), and he was only in Hawaii after he got kicked out of the mainland school he really wanted to attend.

But don't cry, rainbow boy, surf's up!!

I think California QB's definitely rival those from Texas. I will never say California is better at high school football overall, but it compares very closely as far as great QB's go. Look at Matt Leinhart, Carson Palmer, Dennis Dixon, Colt Brennan, Mark Sanchez, Sam Keller, Tom Brady, and the list goes on

Leinhart couldnt outplay Vince Young in the Rose Bowl who clearly should of won the Heisman that year considering he single handedly took that team to the Rose Bowl. Keller was a joke at Nebraska couldn't even last the whole year. And Mark Sanchez couldn't get the job done at usc as the trojans wouldnt have made it to a bcs bowl without dixon getting hurt and booty returning. And don't forget chase daniel who is also from texas. I'm pretty sure stafford, reising and flynn all won bcs bowls. can the cali qb's say that?

SMUfiji43 wrote:I think California QB's definitely rival those from Texas. I will never say California is better at high school football overall, but it compares very closely as far as great QB's go. Look at Matt Leinhart, Carson Palmer, Dennis Dixon, Colt Brennan, Mark Sanchez, Sam Keller, Tom Brady, and the list goes on

Steve Stenstrom (Stanford), Todd Reesing (Kansas), Chase Daniel (Mizzou), Kevin Kolb (UH), Jevan Sneed (Ole Miss), Matt Flynn (LSU), Matt Stafford (Georgia), Kliff Kingsbury, Graham Harrell (Tech), Colt McCoy (Texas)

Pennsylvania hands down has the best QBs. Montana..Marino!