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NOTE: Keep an eye on SMU's Justin Willis, who should be a great fit for new coach June Jones' offense. But Willis was suspended and missed spring practice.

ill believe it when i see it...

A Debate

What's the proper way to handle a troublemaker at the college level?

By Chris Spielman and Lou Holtz

CS- First thing I'd do is install a leadership squad of juniors and seniors to make calls and check on teammates. On weekend nights, I'd even assign guys to known problem spots—street corners, frat houses—to watch out for fellow players.

LH- But there's a thin line between discipline and harassment. Discipline breeds success; harassment breeds discontent. I have a better idea: Find guys who might struggle, then pair them up with big brothers, solid veterans. Require them to have weekly dinners and several 10-minute face-to-face talks a week.

CS- And each incident has to be taken separately, because parking tickets are different from DUIs. I would be lenient for minor first offenses—everybody is entitled to one mistake—but I'd still take away playing time. After that, you have to think about yanking scholarship money.

LH- You absolutely cannot take scholarships away. As a coach, you promise recruits' families that their sons will get an opportunity to get an education. You can take away playing time; that's a privilege. But you don't screw with their education. No way.

CS- But traditional discipline doesn't get through to some kids. About 98% of college players follow the rules; coaches have to figure out a way to get through to the other 2%.

LH- Here's one nontraditional way that has always worked for me: When a guy gets into some trouble—either with the law or grades—I would draw up a contract. It would explicitly say what I expected, what I would provide as far as guidance and assistance, and the specific punishment should he violate the contract. At South Carolina, I drew up 20 of those. All 20 players signed, and not one contract was violated.

***ESPN the Mag***

Willis isn't a troublemaker. He is just in trouble.

considering he's been disciplined at least once for getting in fights at parties?

SMUtrojanFAN wrote:http://collegefootball.rivals.com/content.asp?SID=1144&CID=814185

NOTE: Keep an eye on SMU's Justin Willis, who should be a great fit for new coach June Jones' offense. But Willis was suspended and missed spring practice.

that LeFevour Kid has put up some ridiculous stats btw, definitely someone to watch

lefevour is an alum of my high school...good kid, nice player...

like watching cent mich play with LeFevour at qb, he's a solid player. they always cover the spread

RednBlue11 wrote:considering he's been disciplined at least once for getting in fights at parties?

lets single out JW again... i'm sure he is the ONLY football player to EVER get in a fight at a party... EVER... JJ knows his past, he has been punished for everything he has done wrong, and has done everything asked of him to get back on the team....

expony18 wrote:

RednBlue11 wrote:considering he's been disciplined at least once for getting in fights at parties?

lets single out JW again... i'm sure he is the ONLY football player to EVER get in a fight at a party... EVER... JJ knows his past, he has been punished for everything he has done wrong, and has done everything asked of him to get back on the team....

My roommate and I got into a big melee at an off campus party one night. Thankfully we were all too wasted when we got to the party to know anyone's names, so nobody could have turned anyone in even if they had wanted to. A kid popped my roomie with a crescent wrench and cut his head but other than mainly just bruised knuckles.

And see...you turned out to be a pillar of the community...

PonyLove wrote:And see...you turned out to be a pillar of the community...

But I never played QB again after the incident.

Football players

a crescent wrench?

Where were you guys?

Nacho wrote:Football players

a crescent wrench?

Where were you guys?

I was thinking the same thing, but who is going to question Mrydel.

Nacho wrote:Football players

a crescent wrench?

Where were you guys?

It was at some unknown guy's house off campus. There were some young ladies there we wanted to visit. The other party goers did not appreciate us showing up. There was a fantastic fight, just like a TV western barroom brawl. Everyone was hitting everyone. Finally, some cooler heads prevailed and the fighting stopped. It seems the start of the fight was due to my roomie hitting on some guy's girl. There were about 8 people between my roomie and the other guy holding them back from each other. About that time, the other guy pulled a crescent wrench out of his pocket (do not know why it was there), jumped straight up (excellent vertical leap) and reached over the people in between and popped roomie on the head, cutting it open (not bad). We then chose to go home.