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National Treasure: SMU's Forgotten, Yet Glorious History

PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 12:51 pm
by SmoothSMU
Good article that talks about past success and the possibility of success with JJ....

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/4719 ... ll-history

PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 12:53 pm
by Pony Soup
"the future is bright for the Southern Methodist Mustangs—and future years could look like the early '80s all over again."


I like.

PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 12:58 pm
by SmooBoy
Izods, Trapper Keepers, Members Only jackets, parachute pants, break dancing, it's all COMING BACK!!!

PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 1:03 pm
by jtstang
Will Michael Jackson be black again? I think "Thriller" was the last time.

PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 1:04 pm
by SmooBoy
jtstang wrote:Will Michael Jackson be black again? I think "Thriller" was the last time.


A+

Answer: nope

PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 2:42 pm
by deepellumfrog
jtstang wrote:Will Michael Jackson be black again? I think "Thriller" was the last time.



Your thinking "off the wall" he was lightening big time by the time Thriller came around.

PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 2:45 pm
by Cadillac
deepellumfrog wrote:
jtstang wrote:Will Michael Jackson be black again? I think "Thriller" was the last time.



Your thinking "off the wall" he was lightening big time by the time Thriller came around.


I believe the cover of "off the wall" was the last reported sighting of his nose as well.

-CoS

PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 3:01 pm
by RednBlue11
where was the pic in the article taken? it looks like old yankee stadium or the polo grounds but im probly way off

PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 5:14 pm
by mr. pony
Cedric Dorsey did a great Thriller dance.

PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 9:27 pm
by Dukie
RednBlue11 wrote:where was the pic in the article taken? it looks like old yankee stadium or the polo grounds but im probly way off


I think it looks like the Polo Grounds. But SMU only played there once, in 1936. The text in the article says it's Doak, and the only remotely possible location during Doak's tenure might be Pitt (?) - not sure where Pitt played in the late 1940s. Given that the pic doesn't really look like Doak, and that it looks more '30s than 40's, I think it's more likely the text is wrong and that is somebody other than Doak (it actually looks like it might be number "37", which would make me think it's Doak's childhood hero Harry Shuford, except that I'm pretty sure he was a senior on the '35 Rose Bowl team and would not have played the next year at Polo Grounds against Fordham).

Thus ends the ancient history discussion, at least for me.

PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 10:17 pm
by Grider
Okay, I had a 1936 rotunda so I checked this out....you're right Shuford was a senior that year. The problem is they wore leather then (according to the pictures). Those are plastic helmets in the picture...plus I'm not sure how many intergrated college teams there were in 1936.

Now, a quick google search brought up this

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multimedia/photo_gallery/2005/10/17/gallery.footballbook/content.1.html

So this makes sense...this is actually a picture of Doak in Detroit, not at SMU but at the old Tiger Stadium.

Any takers on this theory? I had fun researching it at least.

PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 10:47 pm
by RGV Pony
Dukie wrote:
RednBlue11 wrote: The text in the article says it's Doak, and the only remotely possible location during Doak's tenure might be Pitt (?) - not sure where Pitt played in the late 1940s.


I'm with you...if it is Doak, I'm guessing Pitt or Temple...where did Temple play? Franklin Field maybe?

Doak was 5'11...the guy in the picture looks shorter-either that or the defender is huge. At the same time, were schools like Temple and Pitt integrated at that time? One of the defenders would lead you to believe it would have to be an NFL picture either way, as the NFL had integration as early as 1920, and Halas on a bigger scale in the 30s.

PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 10:56 pm
by Grider
Picture from article

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Another picture of doak at tiger stadium per the lions website

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http://www.detroitlions.com/document_display.cfm?cont_id=75847

These look pretty close

PostPosted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 12:50 am
by perunapower
Man, I thought this was going to be about another Nicolas Cage movie.

National Treasure: The Quest for the Ruby Peruna.

PostPosted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 2:44 am
by Stallion
I don't think Doak Walker was 5-11-sure looks like him. More like 5-9.