Ã¢â‚¬Å“And youÃ¢â‚¬â„¢re not going to learn standing over there by me?"

by **chillinfool** » Wed Sep 17, 2008 2:12 pm

This was quoted by Jones in several articles today. It just seems standing around, holding a clipboard, and learning the game seemed to work out pretty well for Tom Brady, Tony Romo, Aaron Rodgers, etc.

And no, I am not saying every backup can come in and be a star, but you can't argue with what they saw and learned while "standing over by the coach." Romo and Brady would have been lost as rookies, just like BLM is now.

BLM would have really benefitted from watching for a year, but instead JJ has placed it all on him, and if he continues to struggle like he is I bet there's another blue chip Freshmen in camp next year that will be "a better fit for the system."

by **George S. Patton** » Wed Sep 17, 2008 2:15 pm

Bitter

by **J.T.supporta** » Wed Sep 17, 2008 2:16 pm

holding a clipboard in college and one in the NFL are two totally different worlds.

but I understand what you mean.

get over it, were 3 games in the year, theres no time machine to go back and change this. whats done is done.

either support Bo and JJ or dont.

by **Cadillac** » Wed Sep 17, 2008 2:37 pm

I wonder how Jone's feels about the last QB he coached in the NFL?

Eh, it goes both ways and I think that it has as much to do with the particular athlete and the particular system as it does anything else.

I had hoped that Willis would be the man, but we can't go back in time and Mitchell's redshirt is long gone. So he might as well toss the ball around and try to learn what he can. Maybe Gamso and/or Smith will pick up some pointers.

-CoS

by **Stallion** » Wed Sep 17, 2008 2:40 pm

Complete BS-a QB can learn just as much or more in 5 years including a Redshirt as he can in 4 years by playing as a Freshman. Jones has taken the emergency route without a fire -a route very few Coaches would have chosen given similar situation.

by **mr. pony** » Wed Sep 17, 2008 2:44 pm

Sinatra sang about that, I think ...

by **Alaric** » Wed Sep 17, 2008 3:01 pm

Stallion wrote:Complete BS-a QB can learn just as much or more in 5 years including a Redshirt as he can in 4 years by playing as a Freshman. Jones has taken the emergency route without a fire -a route very few Coaches would have chosen given similar situation UNLESS THEY THOUGHT JW AND LT WERE POORER OPTIONS. IF JJ JUST HAD A MAN CRUSH ON BLM, HE WOULDN'T HAVE TRIED TO HAVE GOTTEN KEVIN CRAFT

by **RGV Pony** » Wed Sep 17, 2008 5:05 pm

why/how do they expect Evan to learn "standing over there by" the coaches? Put the big fella in.

by **Vitale** » Wed Sep 17, 2008 5:32 pm

Stallion wrote:Complete BS-a QB can learn just as much or more in 5 years including a Redshirt as he can in 4 years by playing as a Freshman. Jones has taken the emergency route without a fire -a route very few Coaches would have chosen given similar situation.

Are you serious? Let's see, he coached a quarterback to the Downtown Athletic Club as a Heisman finalist, and has produced more than a few stellar QBs, and you're calling his approach "the emergency route ... (that) very few coaches would have chosen..." based on what, your standing as a lawyer with an SID internship during the Eisenhower administration? Forgive me for being skeptical on this one, but I'll defer to Coach Jones on this one.

by **couch 'em** » Wed Sep 17, 2008 5:56 pm

Vitale wrote:
Stallion wrote:Complete BS-a QB can learn just as much or more in 5 years including a Redshirt as he can in 4 years by playing as a Freshman. Jones has taken the emergency route without a fire -a route very few Coaches would have chosen given similar situation.
Are you serious? Let's see, he coached a quarterback to the Downtown Athletic Club as a Heisman finalist, and has produced more than a few stellar QBs, and you're calling his approach "the emergency route ... (that) very few coaches would have chosen..." based on what, your standing as a lawyer with an SID internship during the Eisenhower administration? Forgive me for being skeptical on this one, but I'll defer to Coach Jones on this one.

He is saying that JJ has been forced into this situation - that the fact he tried to get a JUCO in here is proof that he never really wanted to start BLM this year, and that if he had a better option he would redshirt BLM.

by **PlanoStang** » Wed Sep 17, 2008 6:34 pm

couch 'em wrote:
Vitale wrote:
Stallion wrote:Complete BS-a QB can learn just as much or more in 5 years including a Redshirt as he can in 4 years by playing as a Freshman. Jones has taken the emergency route without a fire -a route very few Coaches would have chosen given similar situation.
Are you serious? Let's see, he coached a quarterback to the Downtown Athletic Club as a Heisman finalist, and has produced more than a few stellar QBs, and you're calling his approach "the emergency route ... (that) very few coaches would have chosen..." based on what, your standing as a lawyer with an SID internship during the Eisenhower administration? Forgive me for being skeptical on this one, but I'll defer to Coach Jones on this one.

He is saying that JJ has been forced into this situation - that the fact he tried to get a JUCO in here is proof that he never really wanted to start BLM this year, and that if he had a better option he would redshirt BLM.

Then my guess in JW is STUBBORN, and our head coach
is STUBBORN :!:

Unless they can somehow get it together, we are about 1-11 this
year :!:

Our coach doesn't realize the gravity of the situation. His
SMU HONEYMOON, and recruiting ability/BUZZ depend on him
doing something to approach his Hawaii turn around :!:

This YEAR

by **NickSMU17** » Wed Sep 17, 2008 7:15 pm

That is total BS, this year means very little in the grand scheme of things...Jones knows what he is doing, stop with this 1 year or nothing craap.

by **PoconoPony** » Wed Sep 17, 2008 7:28 pm

Nick----Amen. Chances are that the complainers and instant results guys have never competed in Div. I level sports and have no idea of what it takes to put together a competitive team. It takes time, maybe even 4 years in our case, to get the talent, maturity, experience and leadership necessary to start winning. Patience, patience and more patience.

by **FWMustang** » Wed Sep 17, 2008 7:29 pm

NickSMU17 wrote:That is total BS, this year means very little in the grand scheme of things...Jones knows what he is doing, stop with this 1 year or nothing craap.

Thank you, thank you, thank you. One more in the ranks of "not insane."

by **Stallion** » Wed Sep 17, 2008 7:46 pm

I'd love to track all these new converts to the 3-4 year Club-that's ALWAYS been my view. "Recruit well at least 3 years and count to 3-4 from the first good class". I said the same thing hundreds of times over the years and get criticized for being NEGATIVE each year. I'm the most patient guy on this board when the program starts quality recruiting.

What happened to the "Coaching can turn programs around overnite and Cavan, Bennett, Dement, and Tubbs are ruining the competitive talent that should be competing for Bowls, tournaments and winning seasons" Crowd.

What happened to the guys claiming Phil Bennett Coaching personally lost 5 games last year. Now its the Phil Bennett left the Cupboard Bare consensus by the Cheerleaders -what the heck having I been telling you for years.

Things sure change from August to September.

Things appear to be "Back-assed Backwards" on this board starting in September.

I've known all along that this program wouldn't be turned around overnite and the long term direction should not be judged until 3-4 years. I'd bet half the guys claiming they knew it would take 3-4 years were the cheerleaders predictng bowl games and winning season.

I also bet they don't know the reason experts claim it takes 3-4 years. That is code word for RECRUITING.

NOW tell me again why it is so important to play a QB as a true freshman rather than redshirting him and having him availiable for 5 years in your program. See Texas Tech which has redshirted them all.

Ã¢â‚¬Å“And youÃ¢â‚¬â„¢re not going to learn standing over there by me?"

Ã¢â‚¬Å“And youÃ¢â‚¬â„¢re not going to learn standing over there by me?"

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