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Bartel is HORRIBLE

PostPosted: Sat Sep 13, 2003 9:51 pm
by FloridaMustang
It's official: BARTEL SUCKS! Either that or Larry Edomonson is the worst QB coach we have ever had.

Re: Bartel is HORRIBLE

PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2003 2:02 pm
by PlanoStang
Your logic is wrong here. Your OR should be an AND.

Re: Bartel is HORRIBLE

PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2003 3:56 pm
by McAndless
I made it to the game last night, and having what I consider a pretty educated football background, noticed a few things.

1)I knew when SMU would run or pass. Give the JV coach at Jesuit game tape of SMU and he too could figure out what Bennett would have Edmondson run. Hence, Bartel cannot help it if his only passing play is a play action roll out into the short side of the field with two receivers running elementary routes. It is not hard to cover that concept.
2)He fell victim to some dropped balls and some that didn't even hit receiver's hands, instead being drilled into their chests that they couldn't catch. When that happens, you fall out of a rythm and quarterback is the most rythmic position on the field, something he was ill-afforded last night.
3)SMU did not/does not utilize a good tight end in Hrncir. He is a big target with good hands. Bartel went to him once and tried to put the ball where the defender wasn't and the DB actually made a great play. As soon as that took place, Hrncir was not a factor at all. The field is 50 yards wide and Bennett/Edmondson utilize 16 of those yards.
4)How many times was the offense in 2nd and 3rd and long situations? There needs to be far less predictabality on 1st down to have a chance on later downs. There aren't many plays to choose from to run when you know you are going to be blitzed and still need 10 yards. That is difficult, but good coaches try not to put their team in that exact situation.

The defense looked great. Adami may be a little light but that kid plays the game the way it should be played. The two D.D.'s played well and Jonas is back to form. But they must be helped out, and don't put blame on Bartel, just expand the playbook to 5 pages instead of 3.

Re: Bartel is HORRIBLE

PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2003 8:41 pm
by JustAFriend
UNF,

Since ignorance is bliss, you must be the happiest person in the world...freakin moron.

Re: Bartel is HORRIBLE

PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2003 1:00 am
by FloridaMustang
Hey now you sound like me, you sarcastic ****.

Anyway, I really am too [deleted] Bartel. It honestly is entirely Edmonson, the recievers, and the o-line's fault.

Btw, Grapevine is a ****hole.

Re: Bartel is HORRIBLE

PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2003 1:53 am
by GrapevineMustang
As opposed to Daytona? Hardly.

Re: Bartel is HORRIBLE

PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2003 2:47 am
by FloridaMustang
Wow. Grapevine vs. Daytona Beach.. hmm!

I say we take a poll. You're a ****ing tool.

Re: Bartel is HORRIBLE

PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2003 2:49 am
by GrapevineMustang
The beach is OK. Not great, but OK. The rest of that town is worthless. Enjoy.

Re: Bartel is HORRIBLE

PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2003 2:57 am
by FloridaMustang
Daytona is what, 100 times larger than Grapevine.. the area has almost 300,000 people. The beach is great during the summer months, especially the non-touristy areas around Port Orange. The town itself has made huge strides in the past 5 years. I'm not sure when you were last in Daytona.

In any case, it sure beats those Grapevine beaches. Ahem.

Texans are not Floridians, I do forget, and you don't appreciate living in a beach town as much as most people I suppose.

Also, for the record, I hate Daytona myself, having lived there my entire life. I'd much rather live in Santa Barbara or even Dallas again. For now, Jacksonville will do.

Re: Bartel is HORRIBLE

PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2003 3:30 am
by GrapevineMustang
Hey UNF, how about a truce? I didn't mean to bog down this board with a travel guide. I didn't like my visits to Daytona, but that's just my opinion.

And for the record, I didn't grow up here -- I appreciate all beaches. (In fact, I'm in beach withdrawal right now....)