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Ok. Sure, big isn't everything. And I'm the history of the game is replete with the Mighty Mites that play beyond their physical statute because of their "high motor" and "true heart." Great. Additionally, kids are still growing when they are being recruited and I'm sure that a big dose of Vitamin V can help out here and there.

But with all that said, I just noticed that of the recruiting classes that make up our upperclassmen (04,05 and even 06) We had a single 300 pounder. That was 2005's Patrick Handy who was listed by Rivals at 300 even. On the other hand, between 07 and the 09 commits (subject to blah blah blah) we have 5 300 pounders. The average weight of lineman recruits (without taking into account position changes) in 2004 was 250 lbs. 05=271, 06= 252. Contrast that with 07= 277, and 08=276. Right now the 09 commits skinny out at 260 lbs, but I guess we'll have a better idea in February.

Anyhow, even if we don't get any better on the lines, at least we'll be getting bigger.

-CoS

I dont think Handy was that big. He is like 250 now

Heights and weights of SMU players not necessarily correct. I would probably be listed as 6-4 325

Nacho wrote:Heights and weights of SMU players not necessarily correct. I would probably be listed as 6-4 325

One too many nachos?

my limited data sample was based off of Rivals reports. Of of the assumptions is that any bias is/was repeated across the board in a more-or-less even manner. It's not like I was going to publish this in the "Journal of Statistical nonsense" or anything lol.

-CoS

Weight (ie FAT which is what you are probably talking about with high school 300 pounders) is the MOST overrated indicator of talent in a Division 1A Football player(Bus has it wrong) -that's what a redshirt season and Training Staff are for. Quickness, strength, speed, agility and height are much more important.

Stallion wrote:Weight (ie FAT which is what you are probably talking about with high school 300 pounders) is the MOST overrated indicator of talent in a Division 1A Football player(Bus has it wrong) -that's what a redshirt season and Training Staff are for. Quickness, strength, speed, agility and height are much more important.

I do not think that BUS has it wrong. He, nor I, who believes the same as BUS, say go out and get the fattest players you can. We both say that the game is going to be won and lost on the offensive and defensive lines. We need big lineman, obviously ones with ability would be preferred, and we both have wished we could get them all through a redshirt year. Now, BUS does advocate the JC route for immediate help, and at times we all might react overly excited to size as opposed to other factors, but good big will beat good small on the line any day of the week.

Any and all linemen should be redshirted. We should, as we did in the pony epxress days have two full operating offensive lines that are interchangeable. That is the BUS mantra, that the game begins with the "big guys", but I do believe he does want them to be more than just fat. BUS does scream (and I am there to hear him) that we are over matched when our 250 DLs go against 325 OLs, but again, he wants not only size, but also speed, quickness, strength, etc.

There. I am now through talking on behalf of someone else.

Stallion wrote:Weight (ie FAT which is what you are probably talking about with high school 300 pounders) is the MOST overrated indicator of talent in a Division 1A Football player(Bus has it wrong) -that's what a redshirt season and Training Staff are for. Quickness, strength, speed, agility and height are much more important.

Unfortunately, Weight is the only stat I could universally find across the board. Well there is always height.

-CoS

I'm with mrydel. Clearly you want prospects with a great shuttle time.

jtstang wrote:I'm with mrydel. Clearly you want prospects with a great shuttle time.

JT, with all your recent picture posts and bad puns, you are turning in to me. You okay?

I was always using bad puns, I just copied you on the pictures.

Thank you Mrydel.
Size matters, but not without speed/quickness, ability to change levels and of course they have to know how to dance.

So big men like Warren Sapp!

GOT TO DANCE.

Stallion and Bennett have me all wrong. I have never said take a fat, slow slug just because he had some size.
Take fat to lose weight. Take Slow is to get faster when they lose weight. Take fat that has good feet and can dance to socks off any girl.

TAKE ATTITUDE with size.

See you in a few week M.
Thanks again.