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Everyone is always [deleted] about our attendance. This is by NO means a defense of it as it is pathetic. However, if you look at the Top 25 Schools Vs. their Enrollment, we are still bad, but not as far down as you would expect. We average better than Penn State, Florida and UT when you look at a multiple. This is not scientific and does not account for metropolitan area, school record. etc., but I thought it was interesting. Since nobody else is actually posting anything of substance, you are welcome. (Can't get columns to allign).

DBB


School Avg. Att Students Multiple
Michigan 110,264 41,042 2.69
Penn St. 108,917 83,721 1.30
OSU 105,110 52,586 2.00
TENN 103,918 26,400 3.94
UGA 92,746 25,335 3.66
LSU 92,619 33,587 2.76
Alabama 92,138 27,052 3.41
UF 90,388 52,271 1.73
USC 87,476 33,389 2.62
UT 85,114 50,170 1.70
OU 84,858 29,721 2.86
Auburn 84,689 24,137 3.51
Nebraska 84,501 22,973 3.68
Tex A&M 82,207 46,542 1.77
Wisconsin 81,747 42,041 1.94
Clemson 81,335 17,259 4.71
Notre Dame 80,821 11,603 6.97
FSU 80,597 41,575 1.94
South Car 78,467 27,272 2.88
UCLA 76,379 36,521 2.09
Iowa 70,585 30,409 2.32
Mich. State 70,540 46,045 1.53
UK 68,824 27,209 2.53
Washington 67,732 42,974 1.58
Va Tech 66,233 29,898 2.22
AVERAGE 2.73

SMU 18,917 10,800 1.75

Kinda puts the numbers in perspective. Thanks for the info, Duke

Look at Notre Dame!!

I would say this formula is flawed in that it penalizes schools with high enrollments like penn state, ohio state and texas. Those three schools pack their stadiums week in and week out but would have to have a capacity of 130k+ to hit the 2.5-2.7 range.

Also, they expanded Royal Memorial in Austin this year and have averaged 97697 for their first 3 home games. Compared to their fall enrollement figure of 50006, that gives them a number of 1.95. Again would be probably be higher if they seated 120k. I think they with the #1 team in the nation they could probably fill up that stadium for Missouri and Ok State for the next two weeks.

KellerPony wrote:I would say this formula is flawed in that it penalizes schools with high enrollments like penn state, ohio state and texas. Those three schools pack their stadiums week in and week out but would have to have a capacity of 130k+ to hit the 2.5-2.7 range.

Also, they expanded Royal Memorial in Austin this year and have averaged 97697 for their first 3 home games. Compared to their fall enrollement figure of 50006, that gives them a number of 1.95. Again would be probably be higher if they seated 120k. I think they with the #1 team in the nation they could probably fill up that stadium for Missouri and Ok State for the next two weeks.

The seats allotted for students at the Texas home games are very limited. They want the vast majority of seats to go to the ticket buying public...so that is going to really skew their ratio.

As stated, non-scientific. There are a number of factors you can add. Certainly stadium size restrictions is one. The point is we are a small school and our multiple is not that bad. We have VERY BAD attendance, but it is not as bad as I thought.

DBB

I'd like to see it by undergrad attendance, if possible. The situations surrounding grad students (oftentimes, they are students in addition to working professionals, and in the case of many state universities, may not even be taking classes on the campus of the university at which they are a student [see UT-Austin MBA at D/FW], plus many have an allegiance to the university at which they completed their undergrad work instead of the school they are attending for graduate studies) are too complex to be included in this ratio calculation.

Duke Blue Blood wrote:Look at Notre Dame!!

what else are you possibly going to do in South Bend on the weekend...?

I gave the grad vs. undergrad some thought. I decided to go with the full enrollment as that means they are on campus. What I would like to see, but am not willing to spend the time to find out, is the alumni numbers within a 100 miles. That tells you who is really making an effort to go to the games. Again, I realize this is not scientific and there are a number of factors that you could add.

DBB