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Postby Stallion » Sat Nov 15, 2008 1:53 pm

I heard an amazing stat on ESPN the other day-I haven't verified it. The announcer said Vandy is 0-17 in games in which it had to win to become bowl eligible. Vandy plays Kentucky tonite

But I guess it is far better to have played for bowl eligibility 17 times and lost than it is not play for bowl eligibility.
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Postby White Helmet » Sat Nov 15, 2008 1:58 pm

Either the stat is wrong or the game against Kentucky does not count as they have other games left on the schedule. They have been to 3 bowl games so they had to win at least 3 times to "get bowl eligible", or it means do or die in which Kentucky wouldnt count.
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Postby Stallion » Sat Nov 15, 2008 2:00 pm

This from a month ago. Of course Vandy has been to a bowl but not since 1982:

Thursday, October 16, 2008
Vanderbilt will become eligible for a bowl invitation if it beats Georgia on Saturday. The Commodores could have taken care of that last week, but instead lost to Mississippi State 17-14, continuing a long trend of futility in such games.

Vanderbilt hasn't participated in college football's postseason since losing to Air Force 36-28 in Birmingham's Hall of Fame Classic on Dec. 31, 1982. That left Vanderbilt with an 8-4 record — the most recent winning season for the Commodores.

Since that bowl, Vanderbilt has had 14 opportunities to reach the bowl-eligibility standard of six victories in a season. All 14 times they have lost.
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Postby White Helmet » Sat Nov 15, 2008 2:02 pm

Well yes since 1982, bit that wasn't stipulated in your stat, though there is still a possibility that they never won a game at the end of the season to become bowl eligible.
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Postby White Helmet » Sat Nov 15, 2008 2:04 pm

Oh, people can come up with statistics to prove anything, 14% of people know that.
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Postby LA_Mustang » Sat Nov 15, 2008 2:08 pm

White Helmet wrote:Oh, people can come up with statistics to prove anything, 14% of people know that.

Show me a stat that proves we have a good football team
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Postby White Helmet » Sat Nov 15, 2008 2:47 pm

2 WR in the top ten in the country
Against Houston we threw for more yards than any of their opponents including #11 OK State and Dez Bryant
As a team we had the highest QB rating of any Memphis opponent
We held Navy to 0 pass yards
We held #2 Texas Tech to their fewest Rushing TD of the year.
We are +6 in Fumble Margin


Take that out of context of our record and actual performance and you might think they aren't bad
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Postby PonySnob » Sat Nov 15, 2008 6:02 pm

White Helmet wrote:2 WR in the top ten in the country
Against Houston we threw for more yards than any of their opponents including #11 OK State and Dez Bryant
As a team we had the highest QB rating of any Memphis opponent
We held Navy to 0 pass yards
We held #2 Texas Tech to their fewest Rushing TD of the year.
We are +6 in Fumble Margin


Take that out of context of our record and actual performance and you might think they aren't bad


We have lost 15 games in a row in CUSA and are 0-18 or 0-19 against D1 teams.
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Postby White Helmet » Sat Nov 15, 2008 6:07 pm

Im not arguing we arent bad, just showing that statistics are twistable. As Mark Twain said there are 3 types of lies; lies, damn lies, and statistics.
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Re: Vandy's Mountain to Climb

Postby PonyTime » Sun Nov 16, 2008 11:12 pm

Stallion wrote:I heard an amazing stat on ESPN the other day-I haven't verified it. The announcer said Vandy is 0-17 in games in which it had to win to become bowl eligible. Vandy plays Kentucky tonite

But I guess it is far better to have played for bowl eligibility 17 times and lost than it is not play for bowl eligibility.


BTW - Vandy is Bowl Eligible - We are not.
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Postby George S. Patton » Mon Nov 17, 2008 12:26 pm

Vanderbilt has a 50-50 chance to get to 8 wins. Finish the season at home against Tennessee who has mailed it in and at Wake Forest. It would be really cool to see them playing in a bowl in December.
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Postby freedoggy77 » Mon Nov 17, 2008 5:47 pm

Vanderbilt should be a role model for us. BTW they were 0-19 in going for their sixth win until last Saturday @ Kentucky. Congratulations to them.
Bo Levi Mitchell + June Jones + SMU = C-USA Champs
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Postby J.T.supporta » Mon Nov 17, 2008 6:39 pm

freedoggy77 wrote:Vanderbilt should be a role model for us. BTW they were 0-19 in going for their sixth win until last Saturday @ Kentucky. Congratulations to them.


weve had plenty of role models and none of them have worked out
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