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No, this isn't about your new secretary of state.

Looking at the kicking stats on the recruiting board made me wonder who in the NCAA this year were best long distance guys -- which I define as guys who attempted 3 or more from 50+

Here are your stats.

Made Attempted LONG
Jason Reda, Illinois 3 3 51
Kai Forbath, UCLA 5 5 54
Swayze Waters, UAB 3 4 52
Ryan Harrison, Air Force 3 4 57
Thomas Morstead, SMU 3 4 52

What do all these kickers have in common (other than kicking multiple long FG)? They all play for less than stellar teams. One wonders why the much better college teams don't attempt as many long field goals. Could it be, they get the ball closer? Maybe.

yeah but a lot of your buddies would probably have a National Championship ring if SMU had hit that 52 yarder against Arkansas and you would have walked off the field in Columbus with a victory over Ohio St. Never hurts to have a big time kicker who can bail you out at the gun.

ponyte wrote:What do all these kickers have in common (other than kicking multiple long FG)? They all play for less than stellar teams. One wonders why the much better college teams don't attempt as many long field goals. Could it be, they get the ball closer? Maybe.

Air Force is a pretty decent team.

Stallion wrote:yeah but a lot of your buddies would probably have a National Championship ring if SMU had hit that 52 yarder against Arkansas and you would have walked off the field in Columbus with a victory over Ohio St. Never hurts to have a big time kicker who can bail you out at the gun.

Wasn't knocking the kickers (which I agree, the better a kicker is the more it helps the team). I was pointing out the possibility that a better offense eliminates the need for more frequent 50+ yard field goals.

ponyte wrote:

Stallion wrote:yeah but a lot of your buddies would probably have a National Championship ring if SMU had hit that 52 yarder against Arkansas and you would have walked off the field in Columbus with a victory over Ohio St. Never hurts to have a big time kicker who can bail you out at the gun.

Wasn't knocking the kickers (which I agree, the better a kicker is the more it helps the team). I was pointing out the possibility that a better offense eliminates the need for more frequent 50+ yard field goals.

Of course we eliminate the need for long FGs by turnovers.

mrydel wrote:

ponyte wrote:

Stallion wrote:yeah but a lot of your buddies would probably have a National Championship ring if SMU had hit that 52 yarder against Arkansas and you would have walked off the field in Columbus with a victory over Ohio St. Never hurts to have a big time kicker who can bail you out at the gun.

Wasn't knocking the kickers (which I agree, the better a kicker is the more it helps the team). I was pointing out the possibility that a better offense eliminates the need for more frequent 50+ yard field goals.

Of course we eliminate the need for long FGs by turnovers.

You are going to get a black horseshoe and delete this thread if you continue to point out the obvious.

mrydel wrote:

ponyte wrote:

Stallion wrote:yeah but a lot of your buddies would probably have a National Championship ring if SMU had hit that 52 yarder against Arkansas and you would have walked off the field in Columbus with a victory over Ohio St. Never hurts to have a big time kicker who can bail you out at the gun.

Wasn't knocking the kickers (which I agree, the better a kicker is the more it helps the team). I was pointing out the possibility that a better offense eliminates the need for more frequent 50+ yard field goals.

Of course we eliminate the need for long FGs by turnovers.

Now THAT'S funny.

ponyboy wrote:No, this isn't about your new secretary of state.

Looking at the kicking stats on the recruiting board made me wonder who in the NCAA this year were best long distance guys -- which I define as guys who attempted 3 or more from 50+

Here are your stats.

Attempted Made LONG
Jason Reda, Illinois 3 3 51
Kai Forbath, UCLA 5 5 54
Swayze Waters, UAB 3 4 52
Ryan Harrison, Air Force 3 4 57
Thomas Morstead, SMU 3 4 52

Three of those guys are miracle kickers...they made more than they attempted. Cool.

ponyte wrote:

mrydel wrote:

ponyte wrote:

Stallion wrote:yeah but a lot of your buddies would probably have a National Championship ring if SMU had hit that 52 yarder against Arkansas and you would have walked off the field in Columbus with a victory over Ohio St. Never hurts to have a big time kicker who can bail you out at the gun.

Wasn't knocking the kickers (which I agree, the better a kicker is the more it helps the team). I was pointing out the possibility that a better offense eliminates the need for more frequent 50+ yard field goals.

Of course we eliminate the need for long FGs by turnovers.

You are going to get a black horseshoe and delete this thread if you continue to point out the obvious.

Mrydel-Are you whining?? I thought we agreed on sunshine, Daffodils and puppy dogs from now on? BTW-Are the Christmas lights up at the Mrydel thinktank and compound in Sherwood?

PK wrote:Three of those guys are miracle kickers...they made more than they attempted. Cool.

Takes years of practice to get to that level.

LakeHighlandsPony wrote:Mrydel-Are you whining?? I thought we agreed on sunshine, Daffodils and puppy dogs from now on? BTW-Are the Christmas lights up at the Mrydel thinktank and compound in Sherwood?

I never whine. I leave that up to you and your ilk.

I am doing home remodeling and can not put up the lights this year. It is my Christmas present to all ponyfans. I am throwing money everywhere I am able to spur the economy.

ponyte wrote:What do all these kickers have in common (other than kicking multiple long FG)? They all play for less than stellar teams. One wonders why the much better college teams don't attempt as many long field goals. Could it be, they get the ball closer? Maybe.

Graham Gano, a Groza finalist from Fla St and the likely winner IMO, was 5-7 from 50+ this year.

ReedFrawg wrote:

ponyte wrote:What do all these kickers have in common (other than kicking multiple long FG)? They all play for less than stellar teams. One wonders why the much better college teams don't attempt as many long field goals. Could it be, they get the ball closer? Maybe.

Graham Gano, a Groza finalist from Fla St and the likely winner IMO, was 5-7 from 50+ this year.

Does he look taller close up?

mrydel wrote:

ReedFrawg wrote:

ponyte wrote:What do all these kickers have in common (other than kicking multiple long FG)? They all play for less than stellar teams. One wonders why the much better college teams don't attempt as many long field goals. Could it be, they get the ball closer? Maybe.

Graham Gano, a Groza finalist from Fla St and the likely winner IMO, was 5-7 from 50+ this year.

Does he look taller close up?

Wow - now that is a stretch...even for you!