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Umm...We might be in some SERIOUS trouble with the NCAA

Postby StallionsModelT » Thu Feb 05, 2009 12:28 pm

Ok, take this for what its worth but a poster on Orangebloods.com started a thread that apparently a recruit from a DISD school had their coach pay another kid to take their SAT for them. Said that news of this will be breaking VERY soon and that we will likely be looking at an NCAA investigation.

Again, this is a post on a Texas Longhorn Rivals message board so there is a definite possibility its complete inaccurate, but if our coaches knew about this we are is some DEEP trouble. Hopefully this is just a bunch of B.S. but the poster who is highly thought of on that board said that news of this will be breaking within the next few days. Please God let this not be true.
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Postby CalallenStang » Thu Feb 05, 2009 12:31 pm

Why us?
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Postby White Helmet » Thu Feb 05, 2009 12:32 pm

If his coach did that on his own how does it effect us, we can claim plausible deniability. And with tongue in cheek this is why we dont need DISD kids.
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Postby 03Mustang » Thu Feb 05, 2009 12:36 pm

We'll see - I remember a co-worker telling me over a year ago that it said on Orangebloods we had locked Paul Johnson into a contract as well....
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Postby Stallion » Thu Feb 05, 2009 12:37 pm

Unless you typed it wrong-you haven't even described a violation by SMU. If the test is found to be fradulent, the test will be thrown out-and the score erased. How does that indict SMU? The recruit will not be able to gain admission to any NCAA school based on the erased test score. It happens more than some realize. The only investigation would be by the Testing Company-I seriously doubt the NCAA gets involved with that stuff w/o more evidence that a representative of SMU was involved.
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Re: Umm...We might be in some SERIOUS trouble with the NCAA

Postby CalallenStang » Thu Feb 05, 2009 12:39 pm

StallionsModelT wrote:Ok, take this for what its worth but a poster on Orangebloods.com started a thread that apparently a recruit from a DISD school had their coach pay another kid to take their SAT for them. Said that news of this will be breaking VERY soon and that we will likely be looking at an NCAA investigation.

Again, this is a post on a Texas Longhorn Rivals message board so there is a definite possibility its complete inaccurate, but if our coaches knew about this we are is some DEEP trouble. Hopefully this is just a bunch of B.S. but the poster who is highly thought of on that board said that news of this will be breaking within the next few days. Please God let this not be true.


There is nothing in this post that says anything about SMU. Why us?
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Postby George S. Patton » Thu Feb 05, 2009 12:44 pm

Stallion wrote:Unless you typed it wrong-you haven't even described a violation by SMU. If the test is found to be fradulent, the test will be thrown out-and the score erased. How does that indict SMU? The recruit will not be able to gain admission to any NCAA school based on the erased test score. It happens more than some realize. The only investigation would be by the Testing Company-I seriously doubt the NCAA gets involved with that stuff w/o more evidence that a representative of SMU was involved.


Minnesota ran into this with their QB Marquis Grey. He was on campus and the ACT score got red flagged. He had to leave the school and re-take it.

He passed in October and re-enrolled in January. Case closed. If that's what we're talking about here, then I'm certainly not losing any sleep over this.
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Postby smupony94 » Thu Feb 05, 2009 1:13 pm

George S. Patton wrote:
Stallion wrote:Unless you typed it wrong-you haven't even described a violation by SMU. If the test is found to be fradulent, the test will be thrown out-and the score erased. How does that indict SMU? The recruit will not be able to gain admission to any NCAA school based on the erased test score. It happens more than some realize. The only investigation would be by the Testing Company-I seriously doubt the NCAA gets involved with that stuff w/o more evidence that a representative of SMU was involved.


Minnesota ran into this with their QB Marquis Grey. He was on campus and the ACT score got red flagged. He had to leave the school and re-take it.

He passed in October and re-enrolled in January. Case closed. If that's what we're talking about here, then I'm certainly not losing any sleep over this.


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Postby MustangLaxer » Thu Feb 05, 2009 1:31 pm

George S. Patton wrote:
Stallion wrote:Unless you typed it wrong-you haven't even described a violation by SMU. If the test is found to be fradulent, the test will be thrown out-and the score erased. How does that indict SMU? The recruit will not be able to gain admission to any NCAA school based on the erased test score. It happens more than some realize. The only investigation would be by the Testing Company-I seriously doubt the NCAA gets involved with that stuff w/o more evidence that a representative of SMU was involved.


Minnesota ran into this with their QB Marquis Grey. He was on campus and the ACT score got red flagged. He had to leave the school and re-take it.

He passed in October and re-enrolled in January. Case closed. If that's what we're talking about here, then I'm certainly not losing any sleep over this.


How do you pass an ACT? What is a 'passing' score?
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Postby George S. Patton » Thu Feb 05, 2009 1:37 pm

MustangLaxer wrote:
George S. Patton wrote:
Stallion wrote:Unless you typed it wrong-you haven't even described a violation by SMU. If the test is found to be fradulent, the test will be thrown out-and the score erased. How does that indict SMU? The recruit will not be able to gain admission to any NCAA school based on the erased test score. It happens more than some realize. The only investigation would be by the Testing Company-I seriously doubt the NCAA gets involved with that stuff w/o more evidence that a representative of SMU was involved.


Minnesota ran into this with their QB Marquis Grey. He was on campus and the ACT score got red flagged. He had to leave the school and re-take it.

He passed in October and re-enrolled in January. Case closed. If that's what we're talking about here, then I'm certainly not losing any sleep over this.


How do you pass an ACT? What is a 'passing' score?


I don't know. You tell me.
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Postby Stallion » Thu Feb 05, 2009 1:38 pm

its a sliding scale in combination with GPA in Core Classes. You pass your ACT by scoring high enough on the sliding scale that your Core GPA make you eligible. I believe the link below contains the current NCAA Sliding Scale

http://www.gaston.k12.nc.us/schools/hig ... gscale.htm
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Re: Umm...We might be in some SERIOUS trouble with the NCAA

Postby mr. pony » Thu Feb 05, 2009 1:51 pm

StallionsModelT wrote: ... but the poster who is highly thought of on that board ....


Wow, a highly thought-of anonymous poster. Would that be like Stallion, perhaps?
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Postby White Helmet » Thu Feb 05, 2009 1:54 pm

how about a link
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Postby PonySoprano » Thu Feb 05, 2009 1:57 pm

Are you sure this poster is not referring to the Steve Malin/Corlin Donaldson incident back in 1998?
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9B00E5D7153AF93BA35752C1A96F958260
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Postby ponydawg » Thu Feb 05, 2009 2:04 pm

I assume he is kidding about us being in trouble, cuz when one of the big boys cheat they get a slap on the wrist and then they have to find a smaller school to make an example of.
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