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Joe Barton Wants to Take On the BCS

PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 4:09 pm
by Ponyx2

PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 5:30 pm
by Stallion
One good point-that I really haven't focus on too much-explain to me why Utah an undefeated school which did in fact qualify for a BCS Bowl Game should receive a mere percentage of the payout received by a BCS Conference team. Why shouldn't they receive the exact same percentage that the BCS conference representative received.

PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 5:53 pm
by Stallion
This is apparently a description of the payout from a BCS source-it appears that a team from a non-BCS conference brings home half of what a BCS team does to its conference. In addition, the non-BCS conference always share at least a 9% share whether one of its teams play in the BCS bowls or not. So bottom line is a BCS conference receives a greater share of the proceeds than a non-BCS conference does for playing in the same damn game-and WINNING IT!!!!

Teams and conferences participating in Bowl Championship Series games receive revenue primarily from two sources – television and the host bowls.

A total of approximately $1.8 million will be paid to Football Championship Subdivision (formerly NCAA Division I-AA) conferences to support the overall health of college football. Over the first 10 years of the BCS arrangement, more than $100 million has been paid to Conference USA, Mid-American, Mountain West, Sun Belt, and Western Athletic Conferences and to the Football Championship Subdivision conferences.
Also, independent institutions Army and Navy will each receive $100,000 for making their teams available to play in BCS games if selected.

Nine percent of the net revenues from the arrangement, which is approximately $9.5 million [in other words 91% goes to the BCS elite], is guaranteed in aggregate to Conference USA, the Mid-American, Mountain West, Sun Belt, and Western Athletic Conferences for their participation in the arrangement. When a team from Conference USA, the Mid-American, Mountain West, Sun Belt, or Western Athletic Conferences plays in a BCS bowl game, those conferences will receive an additional nine percent [remember, the BCS teams get apx. 18 million for appearing in the same game] of net revenues. When more than one team from Conference USA, the Mid-American, Mountain West, Sun Belt or Western Athletic Conferences play in the BCS bowl games, those conferences will receive an additional $4.5 million for each additional team.

Notre Dame is guaranteed 1/66th of the net revenues after expenses, or approximately $1.3 million [compared to 100k to Army & Navy--what a marvelous reward for ineptitude!]. Notre Dame will receive $4.5 million when its team is a participant. The share to each conference with an annual automatic berth in the BCS (ACC, Big East, Big 12, Big Ten, Pac-10 and SEC) is approximiately $18 million. When a second team from one of those conferences qualifies to play in one of the games, that conference will receive an additional $4.5 million.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 2:16 pm
by ponyte
As much as I hate the BSC and as much as I hate the NCAA, I hate goobernment intervention in areas where it doesn't belong even more. And this is one of many areas our beloved goobernment elected officials do not belong.

After all, it was our wonderful goobernment that outlawed flushing toilets, cheap kids cloths, toys, bottles, etc., cheap lights and functioning TVs. Basically, they outlawed light and set back sanitations by centuries and declared kiddy stuff illegal. If they can screw up things this simple, imagine what goobernment will do to college football.

This places me in a real quandary as the other esteemed institution that could impose a playoff system is the NCAA. And one is hard pressed to identify an area they haven't completely screwed up as well.

I think we had an imperfect system before but gosh is it ever looking better and better now. At least some unknowns could make a big bowl and actually get fair compensation.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 3:03 pm
by GoRedGoBlue
Stallion wrote:One good point-that I really haven't focus on too much-explain to me why Utah an undefeated school which did in fact qualify for a BCS Bowl Game should receive a mere percentage of the payout received by a BCS Conference team. Why shouldn't they recei6 anve the exact same percentage that the BCS conference representative received.


Easy: UTAH is not a member of a conference that is affiliated with the Bowl games that are part of the BCS rotation. The point is: the BCS teams are being GENEROUS to even give this much (in their opinion).

The REAL problem I have with the BCS crap is that the #6 or 7 teams from a BCS conf finish 6-6 or 7-5 and go to big time second tier bowls (Cotton, etc), but a 9-3 non-Bcs team may miss a bowl entirely.

If we want to get rid of the "crap" bowls, then we have to make 7-5 a minimum to go to a bowl - that way those 2nd and 3rd tier bowls HAVE to take a 9-3 team.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 3:04 pm
by EastStang
I don't like the BCS, but I understand the market forces at play in the payouts. An MWC team is not going to generally get a TV audience that an SEC team will get. (Except of course the David and Goliath angle). So, I understand and accept the economics. What bothers me is that Utah who was undefeated and beat BCS teams including its bowl game did not have a shot at the National Title. They weren't invited to a BCS conference. They are where they are. They play who will play them. That's the unfairness of the BCS system. Even if you could compete on the field at the end of the day, you don't get the chance.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 6:38 pm
by The XtC
Who was the team that went 9-3 and didnt get a bowl bid? It wasnt anyone from C-USA, with 6 bowl tie-ins half the conference goes somewhere. Was it someone from the Sun Belt? How many Bowl ties do MWC and WAC have?