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A new wrinkle to the offense?

Posted:
Tue Jul 28, 2009 8:29 am
by George S. Patton
This was the first I heard about this (late last week), but are we adding "The Wild Mustang" to our packages this year a la what Arkansas revolutionized with Houston Nutt with the "Wild Hog"?
The person I talked to said we were and that several candidates were being looked at including Cole Loftin.
If this was talked about in the spring, then I completely overlooked it and didn't know.
Thanks in advance.
Re: A new wrinkle to the offense?

Posted:
Tue Jul 28, 2009 9:25 am
by ponyte
There is no such thing as a 'wild' Mustang. Mustangs are free-roaming feral animals. Because all mustangs descend from once domesticated horses, feral is the appropriate term.
One could make the argument that the use of ‘feral’ is unnecessary as an adjective to Mustang as a Mustang is by definition feral. It would be similar to saying, the fat obese person or the stupid Congressperson.
One would counsel the athletic department to use correct adjectives in describing SMU athletics. We want to be top 25 in all things we do and that includes correct English.
That said, if it improves our running game, I don’t care what they call it.

Re: A new wrinkle to the offense?

Posted:
Tue Jul 28, 2009 9:36 am
by George S. Patton
I don't know if that was the answer I was looking for, but it was funny.
Re: A new wrinkle to the offense?

Posted:
Tue Jul 28, 2009 9:59 am
by Dooby
Is it really "new?" Didn't Willis line up as QB for a series in a game last year. Isn't WIllis the logical candidate to run it?
Re: A new wrinkle to the offense?

Posted:
Tue Jul 28, 2009 10:41 am
by George S. Patton
Forgot about that. But was it really a wrinkle last year since it was run like maybe 6 times all year? I guess it was, but maybe the idea is to make it more of a part of the offense since last year it looked so experimental.
Re: A new wrinkle to the offense?

Posted:
Tue Jul 28, 2009 10:46 am
by ozfan
George S. Patton wrote:Forgot about that. But was it really a wrinkle last year since it was run like maybe 6 times all year? I guess it was, but maybe the idea is to make it more of a part of the offense since last year it looked so experimental.
Every thing was experimental last year.

Re: A new wrinkle to the offense?

Posted:
Tue Jul 28, 2009 1:01 pm
by SMU 86
George S. Patton wrote:This was the first I heard about this (late last week), but are we adding "The Wild Mustang" to our packages this year a la what Arkansas revolutionized with Houston Nutt with the "Wild Hog"?
The person I talked to said we were and that several candidates were being looked at including Cole Loftin.
If this was talked about in the spring, then I completely overlooked it and didn't know.
Thanks in advance.
It would be interesting to see if we ran something like the "Wildcat" offense that actually Gus MAlzahn created at Arkansas then took it to Tulsa and now will be implementing it at Auburn. From my understanding it was suppose to be keep on the down low so other coaches would not find out about it. But I guess the cat is now out of the bag.
Re: A new wrinkle to the offense?

Posted:
Tue Jul 28, 2009 1:13 pm
by Stallion
the problem I see is that Arkansas and Tulsa are two of the more successful running teams in the last few years-yes I said Tulsa-check out how many passing AND RUSHING yards they had last season). They employ at least in multiple formations TEs and FBs and especially with Arkansas recruiting huge blocking Offensive lineman. I have doubts whether a Wild Mustang would really have much success because SMU has no TE, no FB, only 5 on the line and when Mitchell comes out would not be much of a threat to pass and the 3-4 WRs aren't going to be much help blocking. SMU was simply horible last year in run blocking. Willis would provide the passing element but he is not the protype Wild Wildcat because he doesn't have the sprinters speed of the Arkansas, Tulsa or Mississippii backs(think McCluster in the Cotton Bowl) who have been so successful. None of SMU's RBs really fit either although Lee might be the most interesting. We'll see.
Re: A new wrinkle to the offense?

Posted:
Wed Jul 29, 2009 8:26 am
by Cadillac
Christ Frasier or Terrance Wilkerson might make sense back there. Though it look like Frasier's not going to be around this year.
-CoS
Re: A new wrinkle to the offense?

Posted:
Wed Jul 29, 2009 9:18 am
by Stallion
where's Rickey Wesson when you need him? Don't think we have a Wild Mustang on the roster unless its McNeal(that's the type of speed you need to run that type of offense)-otherwise, I'd be surprised if SMU ran the offense more than 10 times this season.
Re: A new wrinkle to the offense?

Posted:
Wed Jul 29, 2009 12:09 pm
by The PonyGrad
I seem to recall that the subject came up in the recruitment of one of the candidates. Don't recall which one.
Also, does running this imply that BLM is taken out or that one of the WRs may be in motion and take the snap? I am, as you can tell, not too familiar with the "wild" formation.

Re: A new wrinkle to the offense?

Posted:
Wed Jul 29, 2009 1:16 pm
by Stallion
to disguise it-the formation probably works best like I believe Arkansas did it-line McFadden at RB - send your QB to WR when breaking huddle and direct snap to Mcfadden. I can see McNeal performing that role but again no FB, no TE, 5 pass blocking OLM-No chance. Last year, I believe SMU inserted Willis and took Mitchell out. This link has a video of Arkansas Coach David lee explaining the Wild Hog. Notice the power running blockers lined up to a strong side-5 OLM, TE and FB lined up between TE and Tackle a yard off line. .
http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:02g ... clnk&gl=us
Re: A new wrinkle to the offense?

Posted:
Wed Jul 29, 2009 1:48 pm
by RednBlue11
so our spread offense isn't opening it up enough? really?
Re: A new wrinkle to the offense?

Posted:
Wed Jul 29, 2009 2:56 pm
by The PonyGrad
It seems to me the idea in the spread would be to create more uncertainty in the defense and make it more difficult to t-off on the QB.
Re: A new wrinkle to the offense?

Posted:
Wed Jul 29, 2009 7:39 pm
by Alaric
Stallion wrote:to disguise it-the formation probably works best like I believe Arkansas did it-line McFadden at RB - send your QB to WR when breaking huddle and direct snap to Mcfadden. I can see McNeal performing that role but again no FB, no TE, 5 pass blocking OLM-No chance. Last year, I believe SMU inserted Willis and took Mitchell out. This link has a video of Arkansas Coach David lee explaining the Wild Hog. Notice the power running blockers lined up to a strong side-5 OLM, TE and FB lined up between TE and Tackle a yard off line. .
http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:02g ... clnk&gl=us
Garrett could provide "expertise" that would actually be relevant to SMU's situation