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How long?

PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 12:55 pm
by SMUstang
Did it take for JJ to turn Hawaii around? Don't we have much better facilities, academics, location, etc. than them? What gives?

Re: How long?

PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 1:07 pm
by DiamondM75
First year. However, he had much better and more experienced athletes in his first year at UH plus he had a full season to recruit. Bennett left the cupboard pretty bare. June inherited a team full of freshmen and sophomores with little discipline and without a winning attitude.

It will take longer at SMU than at UH, but, with the facilities, the academics and the local talent, it will happen.

My opinion is:

Year 2009, we possibly go bowling.

Year 2010 a sure bowl or a better bowl than 2009.

Year 2011 we are playing for conference championship.

Year 2012 we fill Ford for every home game, we are in the top 10 and the Big XII is looking at SMU as an expansion or Baylor replacement. :-)
OK that is a pipe dream.

Re: How long?

PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 1:16 pm
by mr. pony
Of course, let's not forget we were 6-6 in '06.

Re: How long?

PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 1:19 pm
by DiamondM75
mr. pony wrote:Of course, let's not forget we were 6-6 in '06.



If we were 6 - 6 in 06, under the rules of numerology we could be 9 - 9 in 09?

Re: How long?

PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 1:23 pm
by mr. pony
:D of course.

(And the "empty cupboard" included Emmanuel, Aldrick and others. Let's not get carried away. :shock:)

Re: How long?

PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 1:28 pm
by abezontar
They had a dramatic turn around the first year with a sr. quarterback, but the second year UH dropped to 3-9 because they had to start a freshman. They got back on track the following year.

Re: How long?

PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 1:33 pm
by SMUstang
We had a starter with 2 years experience and 2 years to go when JJ took over!

Re: How long?

PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 1:35 pm
by DiamondM75
mr. pony wrote::D of course.

(And the "empty cupboard" included Emmanuel, Aldrick and others. Let's not get carried away. :shock:)


The cupboard had a few crumbs, but 10 out of 100 players is pretty scarce.

Re: How long?

PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 1:38 pm
by Hoop Fan
he didn't fit the "system". He probably would have strayed from the pocket once in a while when under duress and avoided throwing pick 6 interceptions. Honestly, with the improved pass protection that we all see this year, I really would have liked to see what JW could have done with that in his senior year. Rivals the what-ifs of what ole Shan the Man would have done in his career if not cut short.

Re: How long?

PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 1:40 pm
by Sasser Rules
We didn't have a starter with two years of experience in the Run and Shoot. It's time to let that decision go. Either that, or maybe we should re-visit whether Craig James really should have been the featured RB for the Pony Express?

Re: How long?

PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 4:39 pm
by J.T.supporta
you know the saying, "lightning doesnt strike in the same place twice"

Re: How long?

PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 5:47 pm
by SMU21TCU10
DiamondM75 wrote:First year. However, he had much better and more experienced athletes in his first year at UH plus he had a full season to recruit. Bennett left the cupboard pretty bare. June inherited a team full of freshmen and sophomores with little discipline and without a winning attitude.

It will take longer at SMU than at UH, but, with the facilities, the academics and the local talent, it will happen.

My opinion is:

Year 2009, we possibly go bowling.

Year 2010 a sure bowl or a better bowl than 2009.

Year 2011 we are playing for conference championship.

Year 2012 we fill Ford for every home game, we are in the top 10 and the Big XII is looking at SMU as an expansion or Baylor replacement. :-)
OK that is a pipe dream.


I would agree with this if your 09 prediction was for 2010. 2010 was for 2011 and so on and so forth