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Mustangs and Geldings

PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 3:23 pm
by mustangbill67
I am not an expert on horses but based on some limited research, it appears that once a Mustang always a Mustang. Mustangs are a breed of wild, free roaming horses in Texas and the West. A Mustang can be either male or female. The male is a Mustang stallion unless it is casterated and then it becomes a Mustang gelding. Female Mustangs are mares. Mustang stallions are casterated to make them calmer around people, easier to train and to keep them from reproducing. Although this has nothing to do with the issue of the new Mustangs and Peruna, it does clarify the misconception that a Mustang stallion who is casterated ceases to be a Mustang. The fact that the two donated horses have been casterated does not make them any less a Mustang.

Re: Mustangs and Geldings

PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 3:36 pm
by SmooBoy
I hope our players are all gatorated tomorrow.

Re: Mustangs and Geldings

PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 3:50 pm
by VarsityShop
mustangbill67 wrote:Mustang stallions are casterated to make them calmer around people, easier to train and to keep them from reproducing.


Hey that sounds like a great idea concerning a STALLION. :lol:

Re: Mustangs and Geldings

PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 4:01 pm
by jtstang
mustangbill67 wrote:Mustangs are a breed of wild, free roaming horses in Texas and the West.

I am no equine expert either, but that would seem to suggest that once captured and trained a Mustang becomes merely a "horse".

Re: Mustangs and Geldings

PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 4:04 pm
by SMU 86
Thanks Mustangbill67.

Re: Mustangs and Geldings

PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 4:40 pm
by CalallenStang
http://www.horsecentric.com/articles/ho ... natomy.php

mustang: a feral (wild) horse found on the western north American plains

Re: Mustangs and Geldings

PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 4:50 pm
by Wuba
jtstang wrote:
mustangbill67 wrote:Mustangs are a breed of wild, free roaming horses in Texas and the West.

I am no equine expert either, but that would seem to suggest that once captured and trained a Mustang becomes merely a "horse".


This is a ridiculous argument. Once it is trained it may not be wild, but it is still a type of horse. What type of horse is it? A mustang.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/mustang

Re: Mustangs and Geldings

PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 4:57 pm
by jtstang
Wuba wrote:
jtstang wrote:
mustangbill67 wrote:Mustangs are a breed of wild, free roaming horses in Texas and the West.

I am no equine expert either, but that would seem to suggest that once captured and trained a Mustang becomes merely a "horse".


This is a ridiculous argument. Once it is trained it may not be wild, but it is still a type of horse. What type of horse is it? A mustang.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/mustang

Well, then I guess you disagree that "Mustangs are a breed of wild, free roaming horses in Texas and the West." Take it up with Mustangbill67.

Re: Mustangs and Geldings

PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 4:58 pm
by smupony94
jtstang wrote:
mustangbill67 wrote:Mustangs are a breed of wild, free roaming horses in Texas and the West.

I am no equine expert either, but that would seem to suggest that once captured and trained a Mustang becomes merely a "horse".


Mustangs have Thetans and horses have graduated from your Scientology classes

Re: Mustangs and Geldings

PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 5:00 pm
by jtstang
Fortunately all horses who have been cleared were high stakes winners who could afford the classes.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 5:01 pm
by CalallenStang
Wuba wrote:
jtstang wrote:
mustangbill67 wrote:Mustangs are a breed of wild, free roaming horses in Texas and the West.

I am no equine expert either, but that would seem to suggest that once captured and trained a Mustang becomes merely a "horse".


This is a ridiculous argument. Once it is trained it may not be wild, but it is still a type of horse. What type of horse is it? A mustang.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/mustang


http://www.tinyhoovesrescue.org/horse_t ... .htm#sectM

Mustang: any breed of feral American horse. Mustang is often refurred to as a breed.

Our society has begun to refer to "Mustang" as a breed, but this is incorrect. "Mustang" means feral American horse. When the horse is tamed, it should be referred to as whichever breed of horse it is descended from.

Re: Mustangs and Geldings

PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:54 pm
by mustangbill67
This is from wekipedia so I cannot vouch for its accuracy but interesting. Notice that our discontinued male track program was started in 1918. So much for heritage.

1917 • The first football teams at SMU were unofficially known as the "Parsons" because of the large number of theology students on the team, but after SMU won a state championship in women's basketball, it was determined that the university's teams needed an official mascot. Bulls, Rams, Comanches and Rattlers were among the names submitted by members of the student body. The list was narrowed to three finalists, and at a pep assembly on October 17, 1917, the name "Mustangs" was selected over Bisons and Greyhounds. The Mustang is representative of the fleet-footed animal which is native to Texas. • The Mustang Band was first organized by Harold Hart Todd.[5]

1918 • SMU joined the Southwest Conference, joining Baylor, Rice, Texas, Texas A&M, Arkansas and Oklahoma A&M (which later became Oklahoma State) • SMU begins competing in track and field under the direction of J. Burton Rix. The Mustangs placed fourth in its very first SWC Meet

1932 • On November 4, 1932, a live horse made its first appearance at a Mustang football game. Peruna I was a four-year old, 150-pound shetland pony that was donated by T.E. Jones, the owner of Arlington Downs racetrack. The name Peruna originated in the fall of 1915 when SMU student George Sexton substituted the words, "She'll be loaded with Peruna when she comes ..." to the tune of "Coming 'Round the Mountain." In the early part of the century, Peruna was the name of the most famous elixir in Texas and had a reputation as a cure-all. Although the words to the song were changed some years later, Peruna remained as the name of SMU's mascot.

Re: Mustangs and Geldings

PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 7:18 pm
by mustangbill67
a video essay concerning the wild mustangs that are the historical name of the SMU athletic teams. As a naturalist dedicated to the portection and preservation of our natural resourses including wild horses, I cannot understand how some of you would call for the slaughter of these beautiful animals.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfV75RyMkw4

Re: Mustangs and Geldings

PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 7:59 pm
by CalallenStang
mustangbill67 wrote:a video essay concerning the wild mustangs that are the historical name of the SMU athletic teams. As a naturalist dedicated to the portection and preservation of our natural resourses including wild horses, I cannot understand how some of you would call for the slaughter of these beautiful animals.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfV75RyMkw4


I don't believe anyone on this board is calling for the slaughter of mustangs. Please point out to me where people on this board are calling for the slaughter of mustangs.

Re: Mustangs and Geldings

PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 8:05 pm
by mustangbill67
I believe it was a jstang post in another thread.