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We can argue that this was or was not holding. But the bottom line is that's unacceptable especially when you have 5 personal foul penalties. That shows lack of discipline. We overcame it but that's ridiculous! Blame the officials all you want. We put ourselves in that position. And Taylor Thompson should have gotten his butt chewed for the consecutive PFs. He's lucky he didn't get ejected.

Clean that business up!

yep, 30 yards in one drive sucks.

On the other hand, I'd rather be known as a team that will bring it vs a team that won't. Not unlike Glanville's Oilers.

Three things consistently hurt us over the last decade or two. Blown coverages allowing easy TDs. Turnover and stupid penalties.

Our coverage has been corrected. We are working on the turnovers and we saw the fruits of protecting the ball last night. But stupid penalties continue to hurt this team.

Personal fouls shouldn't happen. That is pure discipline.

Some of those personal fouls were AWFUL calls. The one on our touchdown throw in the 4th quarter was maybe the worst penalty call I've ever seen.

I believe 3 of the 5 led to two of their TDs. The two Thompson committed on the first. The last came on the OL that came on wilkerson's TD grab. Shortened the field on the ensuing kickoff and then our coverage and tackling was very poor. But that kid for them did a nice job.

StallionsModelT wrote:Some of those personal fouls were AWFUL calls. The one on our touchdown throw in the 4th quarter was maybe the worst penalty call I've ever seen.

VERY true. Some very questionable calls for this sort of thing during the game, most of which hurt us badly. I was surprised at how long it took the official to call grounding on the ECU QB late in the 4th as well...overall decent officiating, but there are always those calls (or non-calls) that make you scratch your head.

03Mustang wrote:

StallionsModelT wrote:Some of those personal fouls were AWFUL calls. The one on our touchdown throw in the 4th quarter was maybe the worst penalty call I've ever seen.

VERY true. Some very questionable calls for this sort of thing during the game, most of which hurt us badly. I was surprised at how long it took the official to call grounding on the ECU QB late in the 4th as well...overall decent officiating, but there are always those calls (or non-calls) that make you scratch your head.

I wonder if that was a makeup call for the flag they threw on the third down incompletion. They called helmet contact or something like that, on a pass intended for Sanders, and kept our drive alive.

Grateful for the win, but two pfs in a row on the same player is pure stupidity. Not sure if I've ever seen that before

No reason other than lack of discipline for so many personal fouls...........

You guys amaze me. You can't wait 24 hours to strat criticizing the team. I believe it was Patton who was forecasting a blow out by ECU. Enjoy the win for 24 hours and then start your complaining.

A PF every now and then is not always bad in this sport - if you never get them its probably because your defense is not playing close enough to the "line" - sometimes they are a result of aggressive play. Not condoning it - but seeing one every now and then is not necessarily a bad thing.

I personally thought the officiating was TERRIBLE. The ponies found a way to win and I'm glad.

Officiating ws bad. The grounding call was delayed, as most grounding calls are due to the officials conferring to make sure there was not any player in the area of the throw and that the QB did actually throw to avoid the sack. The officials came together quickly and made a rapid, right decision.

I am not sure of the personal foul on the TD but it appeared from the way JJ was arguing and watching Beachum's pleas that Beachum was on his knees after riding out a block and after the TD he punched his fist toward the ground in joy and the official thought he was hitting an ECU player. Regardless, this was a very bad call.

The signature bad officiating sign of the night, although not having a direct affect in the game was during the goal line stand. After stopping ECU on 3rd down, ECU called time out. The entire defense went to our sideline and the offense to theirs. Our other defensive players went out on the field to join the team and an official made them go back to the sideline and said they were not allowed to take part. In the mean time, the entire ECU team was huddled with Holtz. Benny Thomas, I believe, went to the official and pointed to the ECU team, telling the offical that ECU had most all of their team out on the field and the official (yes I can read lips and acutally hear many things on the sidelines from my seats) said it was not his responsiblity to take care of the other team. Just before the time out ended, another official broke up the ECU huddle, but it was very late and the officials were disorganized. If I recall, someone said we do not have CUSA officials anymore but rather mixtures from other conferences. If that is true, they need to rethink. We need crews that work together to have some consistancy.

As a side note, JJ was so mad after the PF on Beachum that he followed the umpire across the field as he went to get the headset for the TD review, stood right next to the umpire while he was on the headset, and then picked up the yelling after the review.

mrydel got it right-most grounding penalty flags are thrown after consulting with officials-another consideration is that they have to determine if QB was outside the tackle-to-tackle box and did ball go past line of scrimmage

San Antonio Mustang wrote: I believe it was Patton who was forecasting a blow out by ECU.

Nope. I didn't say that. But if you feel good about the penalty yardage and chalk it up to "boys will be boys" then knock yourself out.