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Tough Loss But We Are Making Progress

PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 9:56 am
by StallionsModelT
I don't think anyone could have watched that game and thought to themselves that we are not making significant progress towards being a really solid program. Yes we lost but we are flying to the ball on defense and being smarter with the football on offense. We're seeing Jones' plan starting to unfold and its VERY encouraging to see. Even if we don't go bowling this season, I think we are going to be one hell of a tough team to beat next year.

Re: Tough Loss But We Are Making Progress

PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 10:08 am
by Insane_Pony_Posse
Exactly!


DONT BELIEVE THE LIES - PERUNA IS NOT GOING ANYWHERE!

Re: Tough Loss But We Are Making Progress

PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 10:11 am
by George S. Patton
StallionsModelT wrote:I don't think anyone could have watched that game and thought to themselves that we are not making significant progress towards being a really solid program. Yes we lost but we are flying to the ball on defense and being smarter with the football on offense. We're seeing Jones' plan starting to unfold and its VERY encouraging to see. Even if we don't go bowling this season, I think we are going to be one hell of a tough team to beat next year.


I'm coming around on this.

Re: Tough Loss But We Are Making Progress

PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 10:12 am
by Samurai Stang
A true warrior is never satisfied with defeat.

Re: Tough Loss But We Are Making Progress

PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 10:13 am
by The PonyGrad
StallionsModelT wrote:I don't think anyone could have watched that game and thought to themselves that we are not making significant progress towards being a really solid program. Yes we lost but we are flying to the ball on defense and being smarter with the football on offense. We're seeing Jones' plan starting to unfold and its VERY encouraging to see. Even if we don't go bowling this season, I think we are going to be one hell of a tough team to beat next year.


I see next season as a real opportunity to be better. We only lose 2 starters on the O by my count though one is Sanders. The defensive secondary could be an issue as we lose Dennis and McCann but Bell and Moore make a good first string. Kennemer will also be a loss. Having said that, we will have a lot of seniors and other multi-year experienced players. We will also have competition at QB, it could be a three or four way race.

Now, lets go out and get bowl eligible this season!
8)

Re: Tough Loss But We Are Making Progress

PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 10:22 am
by DiamondM75
I can't believe you are already talking about "Next Year". The only thing this team needs right now, today, this year, this season is for BLM to settle down. It is apparent he has caught on to the offense, he is scanning the field and for the most part seeing the open receiver. He just can't get the ball down. As soon as he decides to settle down and take what the D is giving, this team is going to catch some opponents off guard. I hope it starts this week and continues into next week.

Re: Tough Loss But We Are Making Progress

PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 11:02 am
by Glenn Sosbee
Would it be too much to ask to stop throwing the ball every down when we're up two touchdowns and try to chew up some clock? Throw the ball all over the place, get your 2 or 3 TD half-time lead, then go to a ground game with your stud running back (McNeal). This keeps your defense rested and fresh, and would confuse the hell out of opposing defenses. June, there is nothing wrong with an 8 or 9 minute drive in the 3rd or 4th quarter. You should try it sometime.

I am sick and tired of losing healthy leads only to get beat in over-time. SMU should be 5-1 right now and making noise nationally. The Navy and Washington St. OT losses were almost identical, and they were both equally damaging.

We are probably gonna be 3-5 in a couple of weeks, when we should have been 5-3 and a near lock for a bowl bid. God, I'm so tired of losing. I'm also tired of waiting till "next year". I've had it with that crap. This team has the personnel to win now.

Re: Tough Loss But We Are Making Progress

PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 11:06 am
by Samurai Stang
Glenn Sosbee wrote:I am sick and tired of losing healthy leads only to get beat in over-time. SMU should be 5-1 right now and making noise nationally. The Navy and Washington St. OT losses were almost identical, and they were both equally damaging.

We are probably gonna be 3-5 in a couple of weeks, when we should have been 5-3 and a near lock for a bowl bid. God, I'm so tired of losing. I'm also tired of waiting till "next year". I've had it with that crap. This team has the personnel to win now.


Very true. The numerous long passes that went to places where no receiver was present were most costly. A successful long pass last week resulted in far too many such attempts in this contest. It requires discipline for an army to slowly march across the field, but certain victory through a more conservative effort is far superior to likely defeat in a risk-filled approach.

Re: Tough Loss But We Are Making Progress

PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 11:10 am
by George S. Patton
Samurai Stang wrote:
Glenn Sosbee wrote:I am sick and tired of losing healthy leads only to get beat in over-time. SMU should be 5-1 right now and making noise nationally. The Navy and Washington St. OT losses were almost identical, and they were both equally damaging.

We are probably gonna be 3-5 in a couple of weeks, when we should have been 5-3 and a near lock for a bowl bid. God, I'm so tired of losing. I'm also tired of waiting till "next year". I've had it with that crap. This team has the personnel to win now.


Very true. The numerous long passes that went to places where no receiver was present were most costly. A successful long pass last week resulted in far too many such attempts in this contest. It requires discipline for an army to slowly march across the field, but certain victory through a more conservative effort is far superior to likely defeat in a risk-filled approach.


Do you remember how the passes looked on the TD drive that tied the game to send it into overtime. Looked like we took what the defense gave us.

But in this offense, something is always going to be available. It's a matter of the QB making the right reads and hitting the receiver.

Re: Tough Loss But We Are Making Progress

PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 11:21 am
by Glenn Sosbee
George S. Patton wrote:
Samurai Stang wrote:
Glenn Sosbee wrote:I am sick and tired of losing healthy leads only to get beat in over-time. SMU should be 5-1 right now and making noise nationally. The Navy and Washington St. OT losses were almost identical, and they were both equally damaging.

We are probably gonna be 3-5 in a couple of weeks, when we should have been 5-3 and a near lock for a bowl bid. God, I'm so tired of losing. I'm also tired of waiting till "next year". I've had it with that crap. This team has the personnel to win now.


Very true. The numerous long passes that went to places where no receiver was present were most costly. A successful long pass last week resulted in far too many such attempts in this contest. It requires discipline for an army to slowly march across the field, but certain victory through a more conservative effort is far superior to likely defeat in a risk-filled approach.


Do you remember how the passes looked on the TD drive that tied the game to send it into overtime. Looked like we took what the defense gave us.

But in this offense, something is always going to be available. It's a matter of the QB making the right reads and hitting the receiver.
Having to throw the ball to send the game into overtime is a no-brainer. Of course you are gonna throw the ball in desperation time. I'm talking about sustaining drives that eat up the clock when you have the lead, in an attempt to avoid the last minute urgency. Get the lead, then put your boot on their throat. It's called a killer instinct and we don't have one.

Re: Tough Loss But We Are Making Progress

PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 7:50 am
by The PonyGrad
Glenn Sosbee wrote:Would it be too much to ask to stop throwing the ball every down when we're up two touchdowns and try to chew up some clock? Throw the ball all over the place, get your 2 or 3 TD half-time lead, then go to a ground game with your stud running back (McNeal). This keeps your defense rested and fresh, and would confuse the hell out of opposing defenses. June, there is nothing wrong with an 8 or 9 minute drive in the 3rd or 4th quarter. You should try it sometime.

I am sick and tired of losing healthy leads only to get beat in over-time. SMU should be 5-1 right now and making noise nationally. The Navy and Washington St. OT losses were almost identical, and they were both equally damaging.

We are probably gonna be 3-5 in a couple of weeks, when we should have been 5-3 and a near lock for a bowl bid. God, I'm so tired of losing. I'm also tired of waiting till "next year". I've had it with that crap. This team has the personnel to win now.

I don't know what planet you are on but those two OT games bore no resemblence what so ever. The only reason W. St. was in the game was 2 INTs returned for TDs. Navy on the other hand earned their yards and is definitely a better than average team. W. St. is a pitiful team.

I will grant you that running more in the W. St. game would have helped. Your strategy was tried in OT and we lost a yard and missed the FG.
BTW in the W. St. game we threw an INT in OT.

Re: Tough Loss But We Are Making Progress

PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 8:37 am
by George S. Patton
Glenn Sosbee wrote:
George S. Patton wrote:
Glenn Sosbee wrote:I am sick and tired of losing healthy leads only to get beat in over-time. SMU should be 5-1 right now and making noise nationally. The Navy and Washington St. OT losses were almost identical, and they were both equally damaging.

We are probably gonna be 3-5 in a couple of weeks, when we should have been 5-3 and a near lock for a bowl bid. God, I'm so tired of losing. I'm also tired of waiting till "next year". I've had it with that crap. This team has the personnel to win now.


Do you remember how the passes looked on the TD drive that tied the game to send it into overtime. Looked like we took what the defense gave us.

But in this offense, something is always going to be available. It's a matter of the QB making the right reads and hitting the receiver.
Having to throw the ball to send the game into overtime is a no-brainer. Of course you are gonna throw the ball in desperation time. I'm talking about sustaining drives that eat up the clock when you have the lead, in an attempt to avoid the last minute urgency. Get the lead, then put your boot on their throat. It's called a killer instinct and we don't have one.


You have to complete the passes to get there. Please don't diminish the drive Mitchell engineered. If he doesn't do that, then you're all over him for failing to put the team in a position to tie the game. That was a darn good looking drive.

Now, I agree that we blew the two chances late in the second quarter when we had great field position and came up with nothing. If we're up at the very least 27-7 at the half, that really changes how Navy has to approach the second half. Alas, it was not.

And keep in mind how much better field position Navy had for the second half.

I've moved on from this game. I'll bet the football team has as well.

Re: Tough Loss But We Are Making Progress

PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 10:01 am
by Samurai Stang
George S. Patton wrote:You have to complete the passes to get there. Please don't diminish the drive Mitchell engineered. If he doesn't do that, then you're all over him for failing to put the team in a position to tie the game. That was a darn good looking drive.

Now, I agree that we blew the two chances late in the second quarter when we had great field position and came up with nothing. If we're up at the very least 27-7 at the half, that really changes how Navy has to approach the second half. Alas, it was not.


The drive was successful, but less than half of his passes were made complete that night. Overtime was a complete disaster.

200 yards in the air is not what our offensive strategy entails. Our forces only extended our borders to the necessary extent on 2 of 11 3rd downs. A drive at the end does not make up for an inability to perform that began before the battle was half over.

Our attacks may be gaining strength, but they are too inconsistent. I will not praise one drive and forget the entire contest.

Re: Tough Loss But We Are Making Progress

PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 11:03 am
by Glenn Sosbee
Samurai Stang wrote:
George S. Patton wrote:You have to complete the passes to get there. Please don't diminish the drive Mitchell engineered. If he doesn't do that, then you're all over him for failing to put the team in a position to tie the game. That was a darn good looking drive.

Now, I agree that we blew the two chances late in the second quarter when we had great field position and came up with nothing. If we're up at the very least 27-7 at the half, that really changes how Navy has to approach the second half. Alas, it was not.


The drive was successful, but less than half of his passes were made complete that night. Overtime was a complete disaster.

200 yards in the air is not what our offensive strategy entails. Our forces only extended our borders to the necessary extent on 2 of 11 3rd downs. A drive at the end does not make up for an inability to perform that began before the battle was half over.

Our attacks may be gaining strength, but they are too inconsistent. I will not praise one drive and forget the entire contest.
You gotta love the Samurai.