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Quotes from WFAA Reporter that caused the Death Penalty

PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 3:02 pm
by ponyscott
http://media.www.smudailycampus.com/med ... 66.shtml#5

For those of you that don't normally read The Daily Campus, I still can't watch Dale Hansen to this day, and this article just brings back the bad memories and reminds of that turn coat David Stanley.......

Re: Quotes from WFAA Reporter that caused the Death Penalty

PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 3:15 pm
by RGV Pony
the very first sentence kid of discouraged me from reading the whole article. Check facts, proof your work, etc...it's so important to one's credibility as a journalist.

Not that I'm a journalist or anything. But just saying.

That said, having read the article, if we still maintain such dislike for Hansen and WFAA, why don't we have the same disdain for the Daily Campus? They provided the tip...pointed where the smoke was.

Re: Quotes from WFAA Reporter that caused the Death Penalty

PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 3:17 pm
by ponyscott
That's the first thing I noticed but it was the quotes from the WFAA reporter that I paid attention to......but yeah the Ford Stadium was a big miss...you would think the DC Editor would have caught that as well....

Re: Quotes from WFAA Reporter that caused the Death Penalty

PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 3:23 pm
by RGV Pony
ooops. Just want to point out that I am in fact NOT Victor Newman, though he echoes my sentiments in the comments at the bottom of the article.

Re: Quotes from WFAA Reporter that caused the Death Penalty

PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 3:25 pm
by couch 'em
ponyscott wrote:That's the first thing I noticed but it was the quotes from the WFAA reporter that I paid attention to......but yeah the Ford Stadium was a big miss...you would think the DC Editor would have caught that as well....


You think the average editor knows much about the sports history of SMU? In my time the DC was mostly ultra-leftist anti-football hacks. Hopefully it is different now.

Re: Quotes from WFAA Reporter that caused the Death Penalty

PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 3:30 pm
by jtstang
No journalist "caused the Death Penalty."

Re: Quotes from WFAA Reporter that caused the Death Penalty

PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 4:30 pm
by ponyscott
couch 'em wrote:
ponyscott wrote:That's the first thing I noticed but it was the quotes from the WFAA reporter that I paid attention to......but yeah the Ford Stadium was a big miss...you would think the DC Editor would have caught that as well....


You think the average editor knows much about the sports history of SMU? In my time the DC was mostly ultra-leftist anti-football hacks. Hopefully it is different now.


Yeah I doubt they know much or care about sports, but you would think that they knew that Ford Stadium wasn't even around 23 years ago...

Re: Quotes from WFAA Reporter that caused the Death Penalty

PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 5:34 pm
by mr. pony
jtstang wrote:No journalist "caused the Death Penalty."


Not so sure you can say that.

I honestly believe a tip on UT, for instance, to this Sparks guy (a UT grad) would have been ignored as rumor and "just the rantings of a disgruntled former player."

I also believe tips like the one that got SMU occur quite often and go uninvestigated.

When I worked sports for a fairly good-size town paper, the managing editor never cared to look into the occasional recruiting rumor or otherwise embarassing story involving the local high school. Didn't want to know about it. It's like that everywhere, I'm sure.

Of course SMU was wrong.

But the local media indeed CAME AFTER our @ss is strong way. There was no hometown loyalty or discretion AT ALL. How often does something float around the newsroom in a Fayetteville, Tuscaloosa or Austin and get quashed?

Re: Quotes from WFAA Reporter that caused the Death Penalty

PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 5:48 pm
by RGV Pony
mr. pony wrote:
jtstang wrote:No journalist "caused the Death Penalty."




I honestly believe a tip on UT, for instance, to this Sparks guy (a UT grad) would have been ignored as rumor and "just the rantings of a disgruntled former player."



kind of what Ohio State did w/ Maurice Claret

Re: Quotes from WFAA Reporter that caused the Death Penalty

PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 5:54 pm
by Phxfan
You might want to include Los Angeles, Norman and Tempe as well as most major programs/cities in the U.S. that are home to those programs.

Re: Quotes from WFAA Reporter that caused the Death Penalty

PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 6:28 pm
by jtstang
mr. pony wrote:Of course SMU was wrong.

Then the most you can "blame" on a journalist was bringing it to light. You cannot say a journalist "caused the death penalty" because it just isn't true.

Re: Quotes from WFAA Reporter that caused the Death Penalty

PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 8:52 pm
by mr. pony
If someone handed Dale Hansen the goods on UT next week, (not saying there IS any), does he have the stones to take down the Longhorns - during a year when all they have to do is win out and they're assured the national championship?

No one in the state has those kind of stones. And that's my point.

No story, no penalty.

(I'd do it, though. So if anyone has any info on UT, PM me. :) )

Re: Quotes from WFAA Reporter that caused the Death Penalty

PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 9:29 pm
by Insane_Pony_Posse
mr. pony wrote:If someone handed Dale Hansen the goods on UT next week, if anyone has any info on UT, PM me. :) )

Speaking of the Horns....I notice Sergio Kindle the UT linebacker that ran his car into an Austin apartment at like 3am and left the scene of the accident last summer is playing every week for the Horns....was it all dismissed as "big misunderstanding" again or did he get suspended for like the entire month of June as punishment?

Re: Quotes from WFAA Reporter that caused the Death Penalty

PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 10:09 pm
by Hoss
mr. pony wrote:If someone handed Dale Hansen the goods on UT next week, (not saying there IS any), does he have the stones to take down the Longhorns - during a year when all they have to do is win out and they're assured the national championship?

No one in the state has those kind of stones. And that's my point.

No story, no penalty.

(I'd do it, though. So if anyone has any info on UT, PM me. :) )


Of course not, and he's a Nebraska fan who privately might like seeing Texas fall from the top of the rankings.

couch 'em wrote:You think the average editor knows much about the sports history of SMU? In my time the DC was mostly ultra-leftist anti-football hacks. Hopefully it is different now.
Ultra-leftist anti-football hacks? Interesting — when I was there, it felt very right-wing (on the rare occasions that it delved into anything political) and loved athletics. Sports section was actually required reading then, because it actually covered the SMU teams — previewed games, player features, coherent game stories ... those were the days.

ponyscott wrote:That's the first thing I noticed but it was the quotes from the WFAA reporter that I paid attention to......but yeah the Ford Stadium was a big miss...you would think the DC Editor would have caught that as well....

Yeah, you would think so. But it was WRITTEN BY the editor-in-chief. Makes you wonder if anyone edits her stuff at all.

Re: Quotes from WFAA Reporter that caused the Death Penalty

PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 10:33 pm
by couch 'em
I should clarify, however, that in my time there were at least two very talented journalists at the DC who were not anti-football and/or ultra-leftists as far as I could tell, and they both went on to the DMN after graduation. One even did excellent sports articles, but that was just as I was finishing SMU.