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Does Anyone Know Exactly What The Hell Mitchell Was Doing

PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 12:13 pm
by Stallion
More in exasperation than anger since it caused SMU to have to take Padron's redshirt but WTH was he doing. Let's see he fades back into the pocket-and before he is even pressured he runs left against his throwing hand to the corner of the field. He is outside the endzone and outside the tackle box-he can throw it away. Fails to turn and set his feet where a pass might be possible for a significant time. It would have been almost impossible to make a play from the predicament he got himself into. Near the endzone:

1. quick release
2. throw the ball into the stands or
3. scramble and get what you can.

Unless you are Fran Tarkington(ask your mother) do not sit back there running around with no particular purpose. He was jacking around back there so strangely I almost thought he was setting up some weird trick play. So I ask What the Hell was He Doing Back There?

Re: Does Anyone Know Exactly What The Hell Mitchell Was Doing

PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 12:24 pm
by RGV Pony
that's a good question, especially with a team that has a QB guru as a head coach an and asst guru that is the QB coach. I'm surprised halfway through the second season of running this 'o' that basic things like you mention above aren't engrained as second nature. Little things like this are definitely coaching and repetition. Look at how OL practice just taking the first two or three steps over and over in practice. Look at how LBs practice form tackling over and over in practice.

If you're being chased, run away & throw it away. Period.

Way too many wtf moments.

Re: Does Anyone Know Exactly What The Hell Mitchell Was Doing

PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 1:37 pm
by sail420s
June mentioned that Bo had the tendency to slide around back their trying to see over the line. The Navy game was BLM's best game so far. Watching the game film with JJ at the luncheon, it was starting to look like he was finally starting to get it. He still makes some bonehead plays, but they are reducing. This game, his passes were more accurate. He still had a few bad ones, but a lot were on the money. He was hitting receivers in stride...finally. They just kept dropping them, either for an incompletion, or catching them, then dropping them for a fumble.

Re: Does Anyone Know Exactly What The Hell Mitchell Was Doing

PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 1:48 pm
by jimhagle
I'm afraid BLM will always have too many boneheaded plays in him-something I doubt would plague someone like Padron.

Re: Does Anyone Know Exactly What The Hell Mitchell Was Doing

PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 2:24 pm
by jason54858
RGV Pony wrote:that's a good question, especially with a team that has a QB guru as a head coach an and asst guru that is the QB coach. I'm surprised halfway through the second season of running this 'o' that basic things like you mention above aren't engrained as second nature. Little things like this are definitely coaching and repetition. Look at how OL practice just taking the first two or three steps over and over in practice. Look at how LBs practice form tackling over and over in practice.

If you're being chased, run away & throw it away. Period.

Way too many wtf moments.


Excellent point, makes you wonder.

Re: Does Anyone Know Exactly What The Hell Mitchell Was Doing

PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 4:18 pm
by SMUfiji43
He's an idiot and a mediocre QB. I'm ecstatic that we can finally see what the other QB's can do. Burning Padron's redshirt isn't that big of a deal, because I'm pretty confident that we'll get other QB's down the road who will be great.

Re: Does Anyone Know Exactly What The Hell Mitchell Was Doing

PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 5:23 pm
by Mexmustang
I wouldn't call him a mediocre qb...

Re: Does Anyone Know Exactly What The Hell Mitchell Was Doing

PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 6:43 pm
by Hoop Fan
the fact that he got hurt on the play really distracted from just a how bad a play it was. the only possible explanation could be a trick play that didnt develop. ON the other hand, on one of his early snaps, Padron made what i thought was very good play. He started to roll left but UH defender had him dead to rights but padron changed directions and went back hard right and floated a pass to an open receiver on the far sideline. first down I believe. That showed me as much composure as i have seen from the position all year. I am really torn though. To have a chance to go to a bowl this year, I'd concede we probably need BLM to get hot, use his experience and make it happen. However, I see alot more upside and future in Padron. Now that his redshirt is burned I would also hate to see it completely wasted with no playing time.

Re: Does Anyone Know Exactly What The Hell Mitchell Was Doing

PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 9:06 pm
by Come and Take It
The only time I have seen Bo throw the ball away (or at least that I can remember) was in the 4th quarter against East Carolina with the clock winding down and ECU with one timeout.

And that time, he wasn't supposed to throw the ball away.

Re: Does Anyone Know Exactly What The Hell Mitchell Was Doing

PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 9:32 pm
by OC Mustang
You said BLM was moving left and would have had to set and throw or throw across his body, right?
Okay, question: where was Robinson lined up? Left...slot...correct?

He was trying to string out a play that must've been defended better than ECU did, because that same movement you describe is what he did in his endzone in that game. He and Al torched ECU...he was probably looking to do the same thing. They probably detected it, and the safety stayed back.

If you have a replay, watch it and let me know if that's what happened. I haven't seen the game yet. If it is, that viola, BLM was trying to make something happen.

His problem is his 2nd and tertiary reads. He doesn't look down his dump off routes. He doesn't get rid of the ball when it's clear that its hopeless. Bummer.

Re: Does Anyone Know Exactly What The Hell Mitchell Was Doing

PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 10:46 pm
by RGV Pony
OC Mustang wrote:You said BLM was moving left and would have had to set and throw or throw across his body, right?
Okay, question: where was Robinson lined up? Left...slot...correct?

He was trying to string out a play that must've been defended better than ECU did, because that same movement you describe is what he did in his endzone in that game. He and Al torched ECU...he was probably looking to do the same thing. They probably detected it, and the safety stayed back.

If you have a replay, watch it and let me know if that's what happened. I haven't seen the game yet. If it is, that viola, BLM was trying to make something happen.

His problem is his 2nd and tertiary reads. He doesn't look down his dump off routes. He doesn't get rid of the ball when it's clear that its hopeless. Bummer.


the play you describe was ran the play before the sack/fumble/injury. AR was open, and dropped it.

Re: Does Anyone Know Exactly What The Hell Mitchell Was Doing

PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 12:27 am
by SMUFan
jimhagle wrote:I'm afraid BLM will always have too many boneheaded plays in him-something I doubt would plague someone like Padron.

You doubt it would plague Padron?
Based on what? One half (in which he rotated with another QB)?
Or one year as a starter in high school?
Maybe KP will be an all-America, and maybe he'll never win a game, but to make such an assessment after one game is a little scary.

Re: Does Anyone Know Exactly What The Hell Mitchell Was Doing

PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 2:05 am
by kull
The offense we are using currently is different than last year in several ways, and Bo has been playing improved football over the past few weeks. Bo's challenges running this offense are very peculiar relative to QBs I have seen over the past 10 years in JJs system in respect to reads. He has shown some advanced understanding of the route options, but he sometimes may 1) stall in a read with a great throw, 2) nail a read dead on with a off target throw, or 3) make a great read on a vertical, be on time with the throw and ball placement, but will go through the motions to look off a safety way to fast (the safety doesn't have the time to think about biting). It doesn't help that AR has been lamed up until recently. I will reserve my other observations, as they are not appropriate for mention.

So we have a guy that is way ahead of schedule in some aspects, particularly mental aspect of play development, the reads have become much quicker for him. Also his brain is racing too fast, for example several times he is back-checking to get a second post snap read after/between the 2-3 WR consistently and will then cycle down to the 3,4,5 choice routes of the initial first to reads. The problem with screens will be easy to fix.

So basically he knows the routes, knows how to find the open guy, but is learning to be a student of the game. He is watching a lot of film, and most importantly improving. I don't consider myself a sunshiner by any means, Morrison is a sports psychologist/master educator kind of guy, Bo will be fine, he has a gold mine of knowledge relative to the offense at this point, needs to heal that shoulder quick. Padron will get an increased number of reps, showed some signs of understanding a few nuances of the offense (i am not talking about hitting the open guy, i am talking about stance, hip placements, etc.) and the mistakes he made on Saturday put a big smile on my face, he will have an opportunity to be great...in time.

Re: Does Anyone Know Exactly What The Hell Mitchell Was Doing

PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 2:56 am
by SMU21TCU10
SMUFan wrote:
jimhagle wrote:I'm afraid BLM will always have too many boneheaded plays in him-something I doubt would plague someone like Padron.

You doubt it would plague Padron?
Based on what? One half (in which he rotated with another QB)?
Or one year as a starter in high school?
Maybe KP will be an all-America, and maybe he'll never win a game, but to make such an assessment after one game is a little scary.


5 games as a starter in High School

Re: Does Anyone Know Exactly What The Hell Mitchell Was Doing

PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 2:58 am
by SMU21TCU10
I personally thought that Bo looked really good before the play he got hurt. He hit several passes in stride for once. But they were dropped.