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With a 15,000 fan attendance for an SMU game, why even get a coach like JJ?

JJ was highered by Orsini to bring back winning but the dynamics and economics of competing in D1A football has changed drastically. You cannot run a winning D1A football program with a 15.000 fan attendance.

You have to compete at the top of the CUSA. Best to compete with the Boises, Utahs. BYUs, Fresnos, etc. Hawaii averages 30,000 to 45,000 per game.

The SMU model will not work. How can a football program like SMU afford a $2 million coach and have only 15,000 fans? The economic model cannot support this in its first year!

Only billion dollar donors can sustain it. So get the free tickets and fill the stadium NOW!

Take your meds weirdo. But please wait a few hours so you wont damage your liver too much with all that natty light in your system.

Dude, we have lost for 20+ years and are coming off back to back 1-11 seasons. It takes a while to get fans back.

i dont like orsini, never have

I am not fond of Orsini. However, my reply was based on psycho boy and him responding and/or starting every post tonight.

I am an outsider so I respect your comments.

SMU is a private school so they can make "adjustments" faster than the State of Hawaii which is one of the reasons why JJ left Hawaii.

The potential improvements noted on this board by SMU ticket fans need to be addressed by Orsini. There is no excuse.

That is why I post these comments to get SMU fans to realize that this board can make a difference to help make SMU fan friendly and also help the team, players, and coaches.

So ponyfans.com. Please excuse me but ya'll can make a difference on this board.

You have the power if you just try because if you don't, no one will.

Sounds like improvements can be made for SMU fans.

Go Mustangs!

I appologize to all the great SMU fans who got it together the past 20 years. You deserve it. You have to be the best football fans in history and I am proud to be a small humble part of it.

Eddie P wrote:I am not fond of Orsini. However, my reply was based on psycho boy and him responding and/or starting every post tonight.

sunday funday

Aren't student tickets still free?

HollywoodMustang wrote:Aren't student tickets still free?

Free tickets with a $35,000 donation

hawaiisashimi_smu wrote:With a 15,000 fan attendance for an SMU game, why even get a coach like JJ?

JJ was highered by Orsini to bring back winning but the dynamics and economics of competing in D1A football has changed drastically. You cannot run a winning D1A football program with a 15.000 fan attendance.

You have to compete at the top of the CUSA. Best to compete with the Boises, Utahs. BYUs, Fresnos, etc. Hawaii averages 30,000 to 45,000 per game.

The SMU model will not work. How can a football program like SMU afford a $2 million coach and have only 15,000 fans? The economic model cannot support this in its first year!

Only billion dollar donors can sustain it. So get the free tickets and fill the stadium NOW!

We don't pay JJ anything. We have boosters that pay his entire salary.

Billion Dollar Donors - Check.

We have a billion dollar donor. Last name is "Pickens."

Anyone complaining about Orsini obviously was never around for Copeland. Orsini's basketball hire has been a bust but overall he is a giant improvement over Krispy Kopeland.

LakeHighlandsPony wrote:Anyone complaining about Orsini obviously was never around for Copeland. Orsini's basketball hire has been a bust but overall he is a giant improvement over Krispy Kopeland.

I agree on Copeland. He did nothing but collect a check and wait for retirement. Don't agree on Doherty being a bust. I know it has been three years but we had nothing, and I mean nothing when he got here. I say give him this season before you declare him a bust. He has a veteran team and a few good players. He now needs to show the improvement we have been waiting for.

LakeHighlandsPony wrote:Anyone complaining about Orsini obviously was never around for Copeland. Orsini's basketball hire has been a bust but overall he is a giant improvement over Krispy Kopeland.

Lets not forget that Orsini had Pickins as in billionaire T. Boone Pickins, and Copeland had nobody. Getting an indoor facility built in three years and getting 25,000 fans attending SMU football fans with billionaire money?

Orsini? JJ is making it happen.

WTF is Orsini doing to get the indoor facility built and more fans in the seat.

JJ raises the bar and it should do the same for Orsini.

You expect JJ to do that by himself?

If so? WTF is Orsini supposed to do?

JJ was hired to produce a CUSA championship team. WTF was Orsini hired to do? Sit back and let JJ build the stadium attendance???? It takes more to make a winning program. Look at the Boise model.
So what do ya'll expect after JJ leaves? Settle for 15,000 attendance?

Seriously, JJ is about building programs. Not just winning. Winning is not enough. Winning will not build only a program. Building a winning program that builds attendance and attracts a winning environment that will bring in better recruits is a legacy that JJ wants to do.

15.000 fans for a winning program? And all that billionaire money? You reallly want to recruit that????

The more JJ produces means the more Orsini needs to produce. What did Orsini do besides hire JJ???

Give me a freakin break.

hawaiisashimi_smu wrote:

LakeHighlandsPony wrote:Anyone complaining about Orsini obviously was never around for Copeland. Orsini's basketball hire has been a bust but overall he is a giant improvement over Krispy Kopeland.

Lets not forget that Orsini had Pickins as in billionaire T. Boone Pickins, and Copeland had nobody. Getting an indoor facility built in three years and getting 25,000 fans attending SMU football fans with billionaire money?

Orsini? JJ is making it happen.

WTF is Orsini doing to get the indoor facility built and more fans in the seat.

JJ raises the bar and it should do the same for Orsini.

You expect JJ to do that by himself?

If so? WTF is Orsini supposed to do?

JJ was hired to produce a CUSA championship team. WTF was Orsini hired to do? Sit back and let JJ build the stadium attendance???? It takes more to make a winning program. Look at the Boise model.
So what do ya'll expect after JJ leaves? Settle for 15,000 attendance?

Seriously, JJ is about building programs. Not just winning. Winning is not enough. Winning will not build only a program. Building a winning program that builds attendance and attracts a winning environment that will bring in better recruits is a legacy that JJ wants to do.

15.000 fans for a winning program? And all that billionaire money? You reallly want to recruit that????

The more JJ produces means the more Orsini needs to produce. What did Orsini do besides hire JJ???

Give me a freakin break.

You are really starting to sound like an SMU fan.

Just getting a proven coach in here is a massive improvement performed by Orsini. Us sitting around talking about 15,000 fans at this point in the season IS an improvement. Chill. Things are on the way up, attendance will be too.

People in Dallas do not bandwagon a 4-4 team like we were heading into Rice. They bandwagon a winner. Just give it some time.