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Stealing quotes?

PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 11:36 am
by Sasser Rules
So I'm reading today's Daily Campus on-line, and I come across this:

""There's certain points of the game where you have to step up," head coach June Jones told The Dallas Morning News. "We knew they were going to be a physical team up front, but I wasn't expecting that Kyle would have that much pressure."

They're quoting something they read in the DMN? Ignoring for a minute that that seems like the laziest act in the history of "reporting," isn't there some kind of journalistic code that suggests you don't do that sort of thing? I guess it's not plagiarism if they identify the DMN as the paper that did the actual reporting, but it just seems like piggy-backing.

Oh, and the last 1,000-yard rusher was KEYLON KINCADE, not "Kelon Kincase." Only two of his names are misspelled — I guess that's pretty close.

http://media.www.smudailycampus.com/med ... 0264.shtml

Re: Stealing quotes?

PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 11:44 am
by PK
Quoting the DMN is no big deal. A lot of stories carried by the DMN are AP stories done by someone else somewhere else and a lot of their Op Ed pieces are from other newspapers. Seems to be a common thing. Now with JJ right on campus, it is a little lazy to not go and get your own interview.

Re: Stealing quotes?

PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 11:46 am
by ponyinNC
Sasser Rules wrote:So I'm reading today's Daily Campus on-line, and I come across this:

""There's certain points of the game where you have to step up," head coach June Jones told The Dallas Morning News. "We knew they were going to be a physical team up front, but I wasn't expecting that Kyle would have that much pressure."

They're quoting something they read in the DMN? Ignoring for a minute that that seems like the laziest act in the history of "reporting," isn't there some kind of journalistic code that suggests you don't do that sort of thing? I guess it's not plagiarism if they identify the DMN as the paper that did the actual reporting, but it just seems like piggy-backing.

Oh, and the last 1,000-yard rusher was KEYLON KINCADE, not "Kelon Kincase." Only two of his names are misspelled — I guess that's pretty close.

http://media.www.smudailycampus.com/med ... 0264.shtml


you know, it IS a long walk over to the coach's office to get the story yourself. :roll:

Re: Stealing quotes?

PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 11:52 am
by huskerpony
PK wrote:Quoting the DMN is no big deal. A lot of stories carried by the DMN are AP stories done by someone else somewhere else and a lot of their Op Ed pieces are from other newspapers. Seems to be a common thing. Now with JJ right on campus, it is a little lazy to not go and get your own interview.


Pretty sure you have to pay for the wire service to use the AP stories, as well as syndicated Op Ed pieces. Copyright laws and all...... Although the writer did cite the DMN in the story, so I think that makes it ok.

Re: Stealing quotes?

PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 11:56 am
by smupony94
I don't care if you steal from Kate

Re: Stealing quotes?

PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 11:58 am
by PK
huskerpony wrote:
PK wrote:Quoting the DMN is no big deal. A lot of stories carried by the DMN are AP stories done by someone else somewhere else and a lot of their Op Ed pieces are from other newspapers. Seems to be a common thing. Now with JJ right on campus, it is a little lazy to not go and get your own interview.


Pretty sure you have to pay for the wire service to use the AP stories, as well as syndicated Op Ed pieces. Copyright laws and all...... Although the writer did cite the DMN in the story, so I think that makes it ok.
I agree, it's probably true about paying for the whole story or an Op Ed piece, but using a single quote with credit for the source is probably OK like you said.

Re: Stealing quotes?

PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 11:58 am
by Dooby
Well, considering the Daily Campus didn't send someone to West Virginia, I don't see a problem with them atributing the quote to its source.

Re: Stealing quotes?

PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 12:59 pm
by Junior
I don't have a problem as long as they don't start talking about James Craig or Erick Dickenson.

Re: Stealing quotes?

PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 1:00 pm
by PonyKai
It's still a painful article to have to read.

Re: Stealing quotes?

PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 4:51 pm
by SMU2007
The Daily Campus is an embarrassing piece of crap. they should disband until they get people with a knowledge of basic english to write articles

Re: Stealing quotes?

PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 6:19 pm
by HazzardCoStang
Knowing several of the people who work at the DC, I can say that I have witnessed the tremendous amount of work that some of the students over there put into that paper. They spend a lot of time trying to get those papers out. Most people do not realize the few resources that a college newspaper has and the number of obstacles you must conquer in order to have a successful student run publication. I realize they have make mistakes but lets give them some credit. They are still getting the word out about our football team to the students on the Hilltop. And as all of us know the students aren't real good about showing up for the games themselves so its good that someone if trying to keep them informed.

Re: Stealing quotes?

PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 11:51 pm
by Higher Authority
OK, give them credit for their effort. But the writing and fact accuracy (for most — not all) is sub-high school, at least.

And they don't get the word out to students. PonyFans.com does that.

Re: Stealing quotes?

PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 10:00 am
by ender3
ponyinNC wrote:[you know, it IS a long walk over to the coach's office to get the story yourself. :roll:


Actually, they did walk over, they couldn't find the office. They were looking for Joon Bones.

Re: Stealing quotes?

PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 3:49 pm
by SMU_is_bowling
"Oh, and the last 1,000-yard rusher was KEYLON KINCADE, not "Kelon Kincase." Only two of his names are misspelled — I guess that's pretty close."

The Daily Campus should be embarassed for that!! that's awful... :x

Re: Stealing quotes?

PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 12:24 am
by ponyup10
HazzardCoStang wrote:Knowing several of the people who work at the DC, I can say that I have witnessed the tremendous amount of work that some of the students over there put into that paper. They spend a lot of time trying to get those papers out. Most people do not realize the few resources that a college newspaper has and the number of obstacles you must conquer in order to have a successful student run publication. I realize they have make mistakes but lets give them some credit. They are still getting the word out about our football team to the students on the Hilltop. And as all of us know the students aren't real good about showing up for the games themselves so its good that someone if trying to keep them informed.


The paper was quality in years prior to current staff. They worked hard, but also cared about quality of the content and had brains bigger than walnuts. And if you looked at the student section at the UTEP game, word is out, but I doubt people got that from the DC. It's sad to see it in the state it is in.