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How good can they be? No doubt he's going to upgrade talent and he's off to a good start already.

He'll take the decent program Mangino had and improve it but can they contend for a Big 12 championship in a few years? I love me some Turner Gill but that might be a tall order at Kansas. Would you rather have him or Tuberville?

Rather have Tuberville but that being said I don't think I'd want to have the Tuberville that wants to run a spread offense. Never seemed to work out for him at Auburn, and it probably won't work out at Texas Tech either.

He is really lucky to be taking over as they enter the cycle where they don't play anyone from the South. No Texas, Oklahoma, or Tech until 2012. Based on their schedule, if they lose more than 3 games this year, it probably isn't going to work out. If he does that the next two years, that should get him the publicity to get some recruiting done before then.

(There is also some talk that if the Big 12 survives realignment, they will go to 1 year rotations on cross-division games, so he may not ever have to endure the two-year stretch of 7-5/6-6 years.)

Always been impressed with Turner Gill but don't know him personally so I guess you can only believe what you read and that is with a "grain of salt". My question with him is that the people who knew him best did not hire him as a head coach. Anyone know why Nebraska never hired him as the head coach. He played for them and was a long-time assistant?

He just came in 2nd to Bo. The biggest reason was the main problem that Nebraska faced was their defense had imploded under Callahan--I think it ranked 111th in the nation that year. Given the choice between an offensive minded guy and a proven defensive guy, it's hard to go against what your team needs the most. Add to that the differences in experience, it would have been a tough call to hire TG over Bo. Osborne said it was the hardest phone call he has ever had to make.

CalallenStang wrote:Rather have Tuberville but that being said I don't think I'd want to have the Tuberville that wants to run a spread offense. Never seemed to work out for him at Auburn, and it probably won't work out at Texas Tech either.

The spread did not work at Auburn because they fired the OC mid season. Prior to that the same guy had installed it and won at Troy, after he left Auburn he installed it at Middle Tennessee and beat Sth
Missippi 42-32 in the New Orleans Bowl. TT will be going from a more complex system to the spread
should be ok if they have a healthy QB.

ozfan wrote:

CalallenStang wrote:Rather have Tuberville but that being said I don't think I'd want to have the Tuberville that wants to run a spread offense. Never seemed to work out for him at Auburn, and it probably won't work out at Texas Tech either.

The spread did not work at Auburn because they fired the OC mid season. Prior to that the same guy had installed it and won at Troy, after he left Auburn he installed it at Middle Tennessee and beat Sth
Missippi 42-32 in the New Orleans Bowl. TT will be going from a more complex system to the spread
should be ok if they have a healthy QB.

Didn't TT install the spread in 2008, the same year he was fired? I chalk that up to poor management from the King of Auburn, Bobby Lowder.

Alaric wrote:

ozfan wrote:

CalallenStang wrote:Rather have Tuberville but that being said I don't think I'd want to have the Tuberville that wants to run a spread offense. Never seemed to work out for him at Auburn, and it probably won't work out at Texas Tech either.

The spread did not work at Auburn because they fired the OC mid season. Prior to that the same guy had installed it and won at Troy, after he left Auburn he installed it at Middle Tennessee and beat Sth
Missippi 42-32 in the New Orleans Bowl. TT will be going from a more complex system to the spread
should be ok if they have a healthy QB.

Didn't TT install the spread in 2008, the same year he was fired? I chalk that up to poor management from the King of Auburn, Bobby Lowder.

The word was that Bobby Lowder called the shot to fire Tony Franklin at Auburn mid season and also to fire TT at the end of the season, the rumor was he had been trying to oust TT for a couple of years.

what was funny was 3 years ago when so many posters on ponyfans who dismissed Gill and didnt think he would have been a good hire for SMU. Granted, he probably didnt want the job, but that didn't stop ponyfans from dismissing him. i remember it vividly, people were debating whether his record at buffalo was good enough blah blah blah. buffalo. Good enough for Kansas and the Big 12 i guess. JJ is working out nicely (once he dropped his crazy BLM crush), but Gill would have been a great hire for an SMU.