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SMU has to decide Big 12/MWC or SEC?

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Sat Jun 12, 2010 7:16 pm
by ponygrad90
Where should we be angling?
Re: SMU has to decide Big 12/MWC or SEC?

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Sat Jun 12, 2010 7:17 pm
by Stallion
1. Big 12 Leftover
2. MWC14 or 16
3. CUSA
Re: SMU has to decide Big 12/MWC or SEC?

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Sat Jun 12, 2010 7:21 pm
by RGV Pony
Stallion wrote:1. Big 12 Leftover
2. MWC14 or 16
3. CUSA
I think the Big 12 leftover would have more of a shot if there was a leader to facilitate it. Someone as ballsy as...and this hurts to say..DeLoss Dodds.
Who would throw the thing together? KU's guy is on the way out, Mizzou's guy screwed things up in the first place, SO I don't know-if the $$$ folks pull the strings maybe, I don't even know who Iowa State's AD is, UH's AD is busy promoting pictures of make-believe stadiums, and Baylor's people are too busy talking about the apocalypse that will strike the landscape because they're not going to the Pac 10.
Re: SMU has to decide Big 12/MWC or SEC?

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Sat Jun 12, 2010 7:23 pm
by NavyCrimson
All good points. Leadership anyone?
Re: SMU has to decide Big 12/MWC or SEC?

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Sun Jun 13, 2010 9:43 am
by ponyscott
NavyCrimson wrote:All good points. Leadership anyone?
I agree with those options. I think its going to take a good political AD 'broker' that puts the Big 12 together in some form or fashion as soon as the annoucement comes this week. The wild card still out there is IF A and M does go to the SEC, then either Kansas or Utah is the other option for the Pac 16. Utah is the favorite methinks and then the discussions really start to heat up and the strong emerging 'broker' should emerge to piece this all together with the remaining Big 12 and a few Conference USA teams and maybe a WAC team?......
Re: SMU has to decide Big 12/MWC or SEC?

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Sun Jun 13, 2010 12:39 pm
by NavyCrimson
Well said, Ponyscott!
Re: SMU has to decide Big 12/MWC or SEC?

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Sun Jun 13, 2010 4:38 pm
by Pony_Fan
we need a new Big 12 - regionally.
SMU will be CUSA

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Sun Jun 13, 2010 5:36 pm
by Sam I Am
SMU does not have the attendance or TV following to be an asset to any other conference than CUSA. If Baylor is being nixed for MWC, then a private school like SMU is stuck out during the collegte realignment. I wish things were different for the red and blue.
Re: SMU will be CUSA

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Sun Jun 13, 2010 5:43 pm
by ponyscott
Sam I Am wrote:SMU does not have the attendance or TV following to be an asset to any other conference than CUSA. If Baylor is being nixed for MWC, then a private school like SMU is stuck out during the collegte realignment. I wish things were different for the red and blue.
Geez Sam have some faith.....its not that bleak.
Re: SMU has to decide Big 12/MWC or SEC?

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Sun Jun 13, 2010 6:06 pm
by mustangbill67
a lot of people on this board are incapable of seeing the forest. No long term vision or understanding . Money in the coffers from a step up can mean a lot to SMU and to Dallas. Less debt, more and stronger overall programs ,substantially greater visability and national exposure and state of the art facilities. Couple this with the Dallas TV market and you have a very desirable product. Not overnight but a great, untapped potential is there. SO and the administration are on top of this and have been for awhile.
Re: SMU has to decide Big 12/MWC or SEC?

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Sun Jun 13, 2010 6:15 pm
by ponyscott
mustangbill67 wrote:a lot of people on this board are incapable of seeing the forest. No long term vision or understanding . Money in the coffers from a step up can mean a lot to SMU and to Dallas. Less debt, more and stronger overall programs ,substantially greater visability and national exposure and state of the art facilities. Couple this with the Dallas TV market and you have a very desirable product. Not overnight but a great, untapped potential is there. SO and the administration are on top of this and have been for awhile.
The first step is the commitment from the President of the University towards a viable Athletic Department ( maybe a little late for us but its there now) a strong work ethic of the AD AND a strong loyal wealthy alumni base to solidify all of the above will make this happen in a positive manner. Compare or contrast Private schools like Tulane that don't have a current athletic financial commitment who will be left in the dust during this alignment. WE won't be.
Re: SMU has to decide Big 12/MWC or SEC?

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Mon Jun 14, 2010 8:14 am
by EastStang
As I said several days ago, for the Big XII leftovers, basketball and markets are going to be driving force and football a close second. KU, Missouri and Baylor all have solid basketball programs right now and would benefit from a conference that keeps their RPI's up there and still have decent enough football to garner a place at the BCS table. That's a tall order, but not impossible due to KU and MU recent football successes. They can keep the Big XII name and add up to 13 schools (probably too many), but that's the upper end. The key to all this is the BE and what schools leave the BE. KU and company may not want to commit to anything until they know if Louisville and Cincy might be on the prowl, or they go up to 10 and hold two open for later expansion choices. So, let's say they start at 10. That's five more teams. Memphis is a gimme. That leaves four choices. They need the DFW market and TCU by deciding its going to have a p contest with Baylor, is not going to be chosen. That means SMU. Houston is another choice. That leaves 2 open slots. They should offer BYU and AFA and you have ten. If LV and Cincy come on the market, offer them. If not, after TCU has been twisting in the wind, offer TCU and either Rice or Tulane and call it a day. This gives you a conference with ties to KC, St. L., Dallas, Houston, Memphis, and perhaps Cincy or NO. Not a bad footprint for a conference. It also reunites, Baylor with Houston and SMU. Keeps KU/MO as well as KU/KSU. Adds BYU and AFA. Again, not a bad alignment.
Re: SMU has to decide Big 12/MWC or SEC?

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Mon Jun 14, 2010 10:25 am
by gostangs
You had me until Rice/Tulane. you would be better waiting for other shoes to drop. They are unreliable partners and would not add anything.
Re: SMU has to decide Big 12/MWC or SEC?

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Mon Jun 14, 2010 10:32 am
by EastStang
Like I said, they would be last in after other options had been vetted.
Re: SMU has to decide Big 12/MWC or SEC?

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Mon Jun 14, 2010 11:43 am
by BUS
MustangBill and PonyScott have the correct outlook on this. We are going to be better and be able to grow even more.