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Carlton says the Big 12 will not add SMU,TCU or Houston

PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 5:35 pm
by jason54858

Re: Carlton says the Big 12 will not add SMU,TCU or Houston

PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 5:37 pm
by Hoop Fan
ouch again. Who is the secret handshake with? Notre Dame?

Re: Carlton says the Big 12 will not add SMU,TCU or Houston

PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 5:55 pm
by SMU89
While I'm sure he has never been wrong before, this is just Carlton's opinion.

I think the MWC press conference adds more credibility to my favorite reporter from the great town of Las Vegas -- Todd Jacobs.

We all know Todd is claiming the Big 12 is courting SMU and Houston. The fact that the MWC has decided to hold-off on expansion at this time adds credibility to Todd's reporting.

Re: Carlton says the Big 12 will not add SMU,TCU or Houston

PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 6:02 pm
by jason54858
SMU89 wrote:While I'm sure he has never been wrong before, this is just Carlton's opinion.

I think the MWC press conference adds more credibility to my favorite reporter from the great town of Las Vegas -- Todd Jacobs.

We all know Todd is claiming the Big 12 is courting SMU and Houston. The fact that the MWC has decided to hold-off on expansion at this time adds credibility to Todd's claim.


Wait-Wait-Wait, so you really believe the Big 12 is courting SMU and Houston? :?

Re: Carlton says the Big 12 will not add SMU,TCU or Houston

PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 6:04 pm
by CalallenStang
The day the Big 12 adds another Texas team is the day after Texas and A&M leave the conference.

Re: Carlton says the Big 12 will not add SMU,TCU or Houston

PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 6:20 pm
by couch 'em
There is ZERO reason for the Big-12 to add SMU, TCU, or Houston.

Can someone give me ONE reason why they might?

Re: Carlton says the Big 12 will not add SMU,TCU or Houston

PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 6:23 pm
by HB Pony Dad
couch 'em wrote:There is ZERO reason for the Big-12 to add SMU, TCU, or Houston.

Can someone give me ONE reason why they might?


JUST BECAUSE!!!

You didn't say it had to be a GOOD Reason!

Re: Carlton says the Big 12 will not add SMU,TCU or Houston

PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 6:36 pm
by mr. pony
couch 'em wrote:There is ZERO reason for the Big-12 to add SMU, TCU, or Houston.

Can someone give me ONE reason why they might?


Why, haven't you heard? UT, A&M and Tech are big on tradition and keeping games close for mommies to drive to them, etc. You know, all the stuff they said this week about why they kept the Mack 10 together.

Re: Carlton says the Big 12 will not add SMU,TCU or Houston

PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 6:40 pm
by NavyCrimson
You're dead on Callenstang.

I wouldn't either unless I was going to throw them - whoever they could be - in the north division. Better to add outside of Texas.

Re: Carlton says the Big 12 will not add SMU,TCU or Houston

PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 6:41 pm
by SMU89
couch 'em wrote:There is ZERO reason for the Big-12 to add SMU, TCU, or Houston.

Can someone give me ONE reason why they might?


Some thoughts:

- Texas & OU want $$$, national exposure, and easy path to national championship game

- They could have gone to the SEC but passed -- too much competition -- too hard to get to national championship game.

- They got the TV money they wanted and have an easier path to national championship w/out NU

- Adding two easy wins/teams would enable big 12 championship game which is important for national exposure -- UT and OU expecting to benefit from this exposure 99.9% of the time.

- Not sure how much money is generated via championship game, but assume you could do it so the two new teams take a portion and everyone else stays revenue neutral or there is some additional revenue payout (most likely whoever plays in it -- UT /OU)

Re: Carlton says the Big 12 will not add SMU,TCU or Houston

PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 6:55 pm
by couch 'em
SMU89 wrote:Some thoughts:

- Texas & OU want $$$, national exposure, and easy path to national championship game

SMU TCU Houston (STH) would take more money than they would generate for the conference. It would cost UT
- They could have gone to the SEC but passed -- too much competition -- too hard to get to national championship game.

It is already easy for them without STH.
- They got the TV money they wanted and have an easier path to national championship w/out NU

- Adding two easy wins/teams would enable big 12 championship game which is important for national exposure -- UT and OU expecting to benefit from this exposure 99.9% of the time.

A championship game would just be a chance for UT/OU to wreck each other's records playing each other again. Playing it can hurt them, but it can't help them.
- Not sure how much money is generated via championship game, but assume you could do it so the two new teams take a portion and everyone else stays revenue neutral or there is some additional revenue payout (most likely whoever plays in it -- UT /OU)

Not enough to mess up their easy path to NC. If there were more good teams it would be one thing, but as it is now, it's a two team league. Really, a one team league.

Re: Carlton says the Big 12 will not add SMU,TCU or Houston

PostPosted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 9:05 pm
by LA_Mustang
:?: :?: How can this be??? I thought ponygrad90 guaranteed it

Re: Carlton says the Big 12 will not add SMU,TCU or Houston

PostPosted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 12:42 am
by Water Pony
If Big XII (X) choose to add non-Texas schools in the future, who would they look at? BYU, AFA, CSU? They would love the Hogs, but that will not happen. If Tulane was a monster, that might add access to Lousiana market.

As for MWC, if and when they expand, do they look west, Fresno or Nevada, or provide the Frogs a regional base with Houston,Tulsa and/or SMU?

Re: Carlton says the Big 12 will not add SMU,TCU or Houston

PostPosted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 7:35 am
by Nacho

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 7:53 am
by jtstang
Texas does not want a big 12 championship game, and if Texas does not want it, there won't be one.