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Posted: **Thu Jul 08, 2010 11:08 am**

Here is your SMU president at the Knights commission.

http://www.knightcommissionmedia.org/vi ... 09PC_1.htm

1: Coaches are over paid
2: The spending on athletics is out of control and must stop
3: Atletics do not increase revenue by attracting more admissions or fund raising!
4: Must have Presidential Control of athletics!

Maybe Gerald is correct. The coach may very well be over paid. The athletic department is in a financial hole. But donâ€™t stop paying GT 20 grand a week so he can help kill the program. Wake up people.

Iâ€™m all for higher education, but I donâ€™t want to support it as much as I want to support a football team. Sorry just the way it is.

Posted: **Thu Jul 08, 2010 6:24 pm**

It doesnâ€™t take a PHD to figure out where he stands now does it? :idea:

Posted: **Thu Jul 08, 2010 7:40 pm**

This is such a stupid theory and I really don't understand the reasoning behind it. Letting in 20 or so athletes who aren't "academically up to snuff" is NOT going to negatively impact your school 1 bit. While they aren't contributing to your school's academics, they are contributing to your school's publicity via football. Not to mention, we deny them admission bc we are trying to "improve the student-athlete model" and another school scoops them up.

These guys are there to play football, not to graduate Summa Cum Laude. They know that. The fans know that. Everyone knows that. Why the hell does turner not understand that?

If you want to make the school stronger academically, raise the bar for the other 1,480 or so applicants that you choose to admit. Having a "smart" football team is a waste of everyone's time.

Posted: **Sat Jul 10, 2010 10:30 pm**

This is a war of agendas, power, and ego. One trying to preserve the academic integrity of the university. The other attempting to achieve his final legacy on the grid iron.
Both are in direct conflict with each other. What I don't understand is why bring in June in the first place? I have my little $8000.00 budget for travel tickets t-shirts etc.
UCF would be glad to get it back. I won't support any other Texas school.

Posted: **Sun Jul 11, 2010 1:45 am**

this is just garbage, a school's football team is often time's the ultimate image of a school in the media. I live in Los Angeles, and watched USC's academic and test score averages shoot up as the team started competing for national championships on a yearly basis. Not only that, but the number of applications every year began to sky rocket as well.

While I'm in no way a fan of those cheaters at U$C, if you set aside the fact that they got their the wrong way, they can be used as a model of how rebuilding a football program brings buzz and life to a campus, and garners interest from more and more kids. Quit logically, as applications per year increase, test scores and grade point averages go up, as you have larger pool to choose from, and generating excitement for one's school is most easily done through its athletic teams.

Posted: **Sun Jul 11, 2010 8:33 am**

All of these comments are "right-on" and I cannot for the life of me understand why school administrators like ours do not understand this. When I lived on the east coast, my only contact, and interest in SMU, was reading about it in the sports pages (I remember how thrilled I was to read about us beating Navy and Staubach in the Cotton Bowl, and the NY Times proclaiming "SMU Lances Texas" when we beat them down in Austin) I love SMU but without the football program my interest would drop to zilch (and my son, who went to SMU because of the football program agrees)!

Sheer blindness!

Posted: **Sun Jul 11, 2010 9:14 am**

Knight Comm July 2010

http://www.knightcommission.org/index.p ... &Itemid=11

Posted: **Sun Jul 11, 2010 9:37 am**

Mestengo wrote:Here is your SMU president at the Knights commission.
1: Coaches are over paid
2: The spending on athletics is out of control and must stop
3: Atletics do not increase revenue by attracting more admissions or fund raising!
4: Must have Presidential Control of athletics!

1: True. June is probably one of the Top 3 collegiate football coaches in America. Still $2 mil a year is over-the-top. That being said, salaries at that level are driven by the market. If we hadn't let our program fall into shambles, maybe we could have lured him away from Hawaii for half that. :?:

2: True. Busses and trains have been replaced with airplanes. Facilities today would have been inconceivable 20 years ago. It's like pro sports without a salary cap. At some point, your competition who's tired of losing, is going to outspend you in order to become competitive.

3: This is abjectly false. We have the data to prove it.

4: Probably. But if a university president wants to take control of athletics, they're going to have to answer to a Board of Trustees, Board of Regents, etc. for it. Just sayin', you should be careful what you ask for.

Posted: **Sun Jul 11, 2010 2:12 pm**

The Circle OF Champions pays JJ NOT SMU. And that money is not going to the academic dept. otherwise.

Posted: **Sun Jul 11, 2010 5:25 pm**

I just want to enjoy game day on the vard. That is all.

Posted: **Sun Jul 11, 2010 5:28 pm**

Mestengo wrote:I just want to enjoy game day on the vard. That is all.

yeah...looking forward to seeing RGT strolling up and down gladhanding folks in recognition of what his leadership has created

Posted: **Mon Jul 12, 2010 9:39 pm**

PerunaPunch wrote:
Mestengo wrote:Here is your SMU president at the Knights commission.
1: Coaches are over paid
2: The spending on athletics is out of control and must stop
3: Atletics do not increase revenue by attracting more admissions or fund raising!
4: Must have Presidential Control of athletics!

3: This is abjectly false. We have the data to prove it.

However, it is nice to know that Turner is not limiting his lies to SMU.

Posted: **Tue Jul 13, 2010 11:54 am**

Mestengo wrote:Here is your SMU president at the Knights commission.

http://www.knightcommissionmedia.org/vi ... 09PC_1.htm

1: Coaches are over paid
2: The spending on athletics is out of control and must stop
3: Atletics do not increase revenue by attracting more admissions or fund raising!
4: Must have Presidential Control of athletics!

Maybe Gerald is correct. The coach may very well be over paid. The athletic department is in a financial hole. But donâ€™t stop paying GT 20 grand a week so he can help kill the program. Wake up people.

Iâ€™m all for higher education, but I donâ€™t want to support it as much as I want to support a football team. Sorry just the way it is.

April 2010
The NCAA announced it has reached a 14-year, nearly $11 billion agreement with CBS and Turner Sports for the TV rights to a 68-team Men's Basketball tournament.

Posted: **Tue Jul 13, 2010 12:22 pm**

Turner Sports is an oxymoron!

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