PonyFans.comBoard IndexAround the HilltopFootballRecruitingBasketballOther Sports

Zero Depth Hurts

This is the forum for talk about SMU Football

Moderators: PonyPride, SmooPower

Zero Depth Hurts

Postby couch 'em » Sat Oct 23, 2010 9:37 pm

What did you expect? Everyone knew we were paper thin. Sterling gone, D is toast.

I don't know what to say about the O though.

Is it Padron?
"I think Couchem is right."
-EVERYONE
User avatar
couch 'em
PonyFans.com Super Legend
 
Posts: 9758
Joined: Wed Sep 04, 2002 3:01 am
Location: Farmers Branch

Re: Zero Depth Hurts

Postby BUS » Sat Oct 23, 2010 9:49 pm

We are not that thin. People on this board do not want to pile on the team.
The team was flat, the coaching was flat Houston was sharp.

We have the players to win every game on the schedule this year... minus one. The other come down to execution.

Tonight, sad to say, we were... executed :? :evil: :?:
Mustang Militia: Fight the good fight"
User avatar
BUS
PonyFans.com Super Legend
 
Posts: 7303
Joined: Wed Mar 22, 2000 4:01 am
Location: Richardson, Tx usa

Re: Zero Depth Hurts

Postby SMU 86 » Sat Oct 23, 2010 9:57 pm

I think Couchem is right. Our first 2 recruiting classes are affecting us. We recruited about 7 offensive lineman in one class and not one of them is seeing the field on offense(did not recruit any true DT's in that class either). I would go on but I won't.
Last edited by SMU 86 on Sat Oct 23, 2010 10:41 pm, edited 1 time in total.
"We will play man to man and we will pick you up at the airport." - Larry Brown

________________________Champion________________________
Image
User avatar
SMU 86
PonyFans.com Super Legend
 
Posts: 12943
Joined: Wed Jan 09, 2008 6:41 pm

Re: Zero Depth Hurts

Postby sbsmith » Sat Oct 23, 2010 10:01 pm

couch 'em wrote:What did you expect? Everyone knew we were paper thin. Sterling gone, D is toast.

I don't know what to say about the O though.

Is it Padron?




Padron holding the ball all day isn't helping but the recievers seem to really struggle getting separation, every time Kyle does get the ball to them there's always a defender around and our guys go down so easily. I suspect this is why we can't get anything done over the middle. This WR corps just isn't that talented.
They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security

-Benjamin Franklin
sbsmith
PonyFans.com Super Legend
 
Posts: 9540
Joined: Sun Jun 01, 2008 11:21 am
Location: Dallas

Re: Zero Depth Hurts

Postby 450fan » Sat Oct 23, 2010 10:01 pm

Agree.

We have the talent to win at least 3 games.

A win in New Orleans next week should be the focus.

Regarding the "thin" issue, it may be that we really don't sub that much and others aren't getting the reps. Granted, we haven't been in enough spots during games this year to sub a lot.

But still, find some game time for the backups.
450fan
Scout Team
 
Posts: 70
Joined: Fri Jan 29, 2010 2:45 pm

Re: Zero Depth Hurts

Postby sbsmith » Sat Oct 23, 2010 10:13 pm

SMU 86 wrote:I think Couchem is right. Our first 2 recruiting classes are affecting us. We recruited about 7 offensive lineman in one class and not one of them is seeing the field on offense(did not recruit ant true DT's in that class either). I would go on but I won't.



We whiffed a lot on DBs in those 1st 2 classes, I think a few never made it a few were academic casualities and the others just suck. The 1st 2 classes were both OL heavy, of the ones that are left McJunkin and Emshoff have played and Emshoff looked like crap last week.
They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security

-Benjamin Franklin
sbsmith
PonyFans.com Super Legend
 
Posts: 9540
Joined: Sun Jun 01, 2008 11:21 am
Location: Dallas

Re: Zero Depth Hurts

Postby TheBestAvailable » Sat Oct 23, 2010 10:32 pm

Our corners are horrible. If we don't get Moore back we're in trouble. We gave up way too many big plays on 3rd and very long.
User avatar
TheBestAvailable
All-American
 
Posts: 628
Joined: Tue Dec 11, 2007 11:09 pm
Location: Downtown Dallas

Re: Zero Depth Hurts

Postby GoodGirl » Sat Oct 23, 2010 11:12 pm

Why does the board have a hard time with holding Kyle accountable for his mistakes. It seems that every week Padron gets a pass, while you blame the defense, O-line or WR's...everybody but Padron. The past two weeks, Kyle has 3 interceptions and 2 fumbles. He holds on to the ball too long, and when he does pass, he overthrows the receivers, throws it behind them so much so that they are having to make acrobatic catches that they can't do anything with after the catch. Because he holds on to the ball so long, by the time he does throw the ball, the defense has had time to adjust to the play. OMG...can he just go through the reads and find the open receiver sometime! How many times does Kyle come out of the pocket looking one way, with a predetermined receiver in mind. That drives me crazy. Let's face, Padron is NOT getting better and he has to bear some of the blame and IMO, alot of it. The WR's are very talented, we just need a QB that can get them the ball quicker and with more accuracy.
GoodGirl
Newbie
 
Posts: 13
Joined: Wed Sep 02, 2009 12:51 pm

Re: Zero Depth Hurts

Postby sbsmith » Sat Oct 23, 2010 11:44 pm

Padron is the best we have for right now though it's obvious he is having trouble digesting the full R&S and it's causing him to overthink everything and press. Time for JJ to break out the R&S Light he used last year to break Padron in because we don't have any more games to waste. Our defense is looking bad and the offense needs to start scoring and sustaining drives to give them a break.
They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security

-Benjamin Franklin
sbsmith
PonyFans.com Super Legend
 
Posts: 9540
Joined: Sun Jun 01, 2008 11:21 am
Location: Dallas

Re: Zero Depth Hurts

Postby JasonB » Sat Oct 23, 2010 11:47 pm

Padron is certainly struggling, but we are having issues with making plays at WR. How many long catch and runs did McNeal and Sanders have last year? That is something missing on offence. Padron is staying with his deep receivers and first options too long and the WR aren't making plays on the run. I would say those are the major issues right now with the consistancy on offense.
JasonB
PonyFans.com Super Legend
 
Posts: 7226
Joined: Mon Aug 27, 2001 3:01 am
Location: Allen, Tx, USA

Re: Zero Depth Hurts

Postby sbsmith » Sat Oct 23, 2010 11:55 pm

JasonB wrote:Padron is certainly struggling, but we are having issues with making plays at WR. How many long catch and runs did McNeal and Sanders have last year? That is something missing on offence. Padron is staying with his deep receivers and first options too long and the WR aren't making plays on the run. I would say those are the major issues right now with the consistancy on offense.





We lived off those 2 making big plays, Sanders never gave up on routes and could always be counted on to go over the middle. I always loved it when JJ would roll Padron out and have him find McNeal out on the edge or on a screen and let him go make plays. Do we not have any back that can catch the ball?
They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security

-Benjamin Franklin
sbsmith
PonyFans.com Super Legend
 
Posts: 9540
Joined: Sun Jun 01, 2008 11:21 am
Location: Dallas

Re: Zero Depth Hurts

Postby SMU 86 » Sat Oct 23, 2010 11:58 pm

I said in another post that he tends to lock on to his primary wr target from the snap.
"We will play man to man and we will pick you up at the airport." - Larry Brown

________________________Champion________________________
Image
User avatar
SMU 86
PonyFans.com Super Legend
 
Posts: 12943
Joined: Wed Jan 09, 2008 6:41 pm

Re: Zero Depth Hurts

Postby PonySnob » Sun Oct 24, 2010 12:27 am

At what point during JJ's time at SMU will "lack of depth" no longer be an excuse - year 4, 5, 6? This has been an excuse for the past 20 years.
Peruna is my mascot!
User avatar
PonySnob
PonyFans.com Super Legend
 
Posts: 11516
Joined: Sat Feb 08, 2003 4:01 am
Location: Dallas, TX

Re: Zero Depth Hurts

Postby westexSMU » Sun Oct 24, 2010 12:27 am

We better recruit some more CBs this year. With CB Sterling Moore already gone this year, you can see SMU is in deep trouble already. Depth ???...No Depth....Without Sterling Moore we are a 6-5 team this year at best.
User avatar
westexSMU
Hall of Famer
 
Posts: 2303
Joined: Fri Aug 13, 2004 7:03 pm
Location: Mustang Island

Re: Zero Depth Hurts

Postby westexSMU » Sun Oct 24, 2010 12:30 am

Liberty Bowl game this year ? No Way !
User avatar
westexSMU
Hall of Famer
 
Posts: 2303
Joined: Fri Aug 13, 2004 7:03 pm
Location: Mustang Island

Next

Return to Football

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: DiamondM75 and 18 guests