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Did the season flip on one play?

Postby George S. Patton » Sun Nov 07, 2010 10:20 am

It seems like when Navy hit a 55-yard pass to convert a third and 18 to begin the second half, this whole thing is running sideways. I thought this was a mentally tougher team, but I misread it.
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Re: Did the season flip on one play?

Postby Charleston Pony » Sun Nov 07, 2010 10:25 am

no; these guys are tougher than that. let's see how they finish
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Re: Did the season flip on one play?

Postby George S. Patton » Sun Nov 07, 2010 10:28 am

They have been in a mental fog since that second half against Navy. And only they know why.
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Re: Did the season flip on one play?

Postby RGV Pony » Sun Nov 07, 2010 11:31 am

I would submit the season flipped on the botched FG attempt in the 2nd quarter vs Navy.

I'd also like to see the argument that such was not the case. Like Louisiana court filings, someone "show cause as to why we should not acknowledge that the season flipped on the botched FG in the 2nd quarter"
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Re: Did the season flip on one play?

Postby CalallenStang » Sun Nov 07, 2010 11:36 am

RGV Pony wrote:I would submit the season flipped on the botched FG attempt in the 2nd quarter vs Navy.

I'd also like to see the argument that such was not the case. Like Louisiana court filings, someone "show cause as to why we should not acknowledge that the season flipped on the botched FG in the 2nd quarter"


Sure. We had Navy in 3rd and 18 on something like the 12 and everyone could sense that we were going in for the kill. Then the pass happened. That pass is what did it.
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Re: Did the season flip on one play?

Postby RGV Pony » Sun Nov 07, 2010 11:44 am

CalallenStang wrote:
RGV Pony wrote:I would submit the season flipped on the botched FG attempt in the 2nd quarter vs Navy.

I'd also like to see the argument that such was not the case. Like Louisiana court filings, someone "show cause as to why we should not acknowledge that the season flipped on the botched FG in the 2nd quarter"


Sure. We had Navy in 3rd and 18 on something like the 12 and everyone could sense that we were going in for the kill. Then the pass happened. That pass is what did it.


and the counterpoint would be in the first half...right up until the FG...SMU's offense did well, giving the appearance we were on our way to a sound thumping of Navy. I remember thinking okay...gonna go down, get this TD, halftime, get the ball, score again and it'll be 28-zip. Instead, botched FG, zero points, three and out, offensive mojo gone, 3rd and whatever converted (oh yeah, for SmooTen who was wondering what play do you call BESIDES a draw on 3rd and forever, there's another one for you...executed by Navy, a run-first team).

Next series...fumble which we recover for a loss, no execution, give the ball back.

Our offensive mojo left us in the first half.
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Re: Did the season flip on one play?

Postby Stallion » Sun Nov 07, 2010 11:50 am

Seasons don't really flip on one play. That's absurd. OK maybe UH season was ruined on play when Keenum was injured. We have no similiar excuse. The teams we have lost to have all suffered more devastating injuries than SMU. Seasons flip when a team doesn't overcome adversity. I thought you had learned that lesson.
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Re: Did the season flip on one play?

Postby RGV Pony » Sun Nov 07, 2010 12:00 pm

Stallion wrote: The teams we have lost to have all suffered more devastating injuries than SMU. Seasons flip when a team doesn't overcome adversity.



perhaps one of the greatest Stallion points of all time. Second only to the "hitting the chick lottery," which I still have saved somewhere.
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Re: Did the season flip on one play?

Postby SMUer » Sun Nov 07, 2010 12:42 pm

The games seem to flip each time we have a 4th and manageable at our opponent's 40 and we decide to punt. It seems to deflate our momentum, we net only 15 yards yards and it tells the other team that JJ doesn't have faith in his offense and has no killer instinct.
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Re: Did the season flip on one play?

Postby Arkpony » Sun Nov 07, 2010 1:00 pm

The General's and RGV's posts are pretty accurate. This who disagree should have been at the Navy game. When we botched the field goal attempt we could FEEL the momentum go out of the team. FEEL IT! It's been downhill ever since.
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Re: Did the season flip on one play?

Postby Stallion » Sun Nov 07, 2010 1:09 pm

Nonsense-if that is true our team is soft and a bunch of quitters. Nothing that happened at Navy had anything to do with that "performance" last nite. What is true is that play may have burst the bubble of the unrealistic expectations of a fan base. Hate that you had your bubble burst but it was your bubble.
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Re: Did the season flip on one play?

Postby RGV Pony » Sun Nov 07, 2010 1:18 pm

Stallion wrote:Nonsense-if that is true our team is soft and a bunch of quitters. Nothing that happened at Navy had anything to do with that "performance" last nite. What is true is that play may have burst the bubble of the unrealistic expectations of a fan base. Hate that you had your bubble burst but it was your bubble.


My expectation was 6-6, assuming other teams performed as expected.

Then Houston had a pile of injuries, had a patchwork D-line, and lost to f ing R I C E

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for UTEP, Buckram went down, didnt even play against us, Vittatoe is not 100% healthy

Only expectation whose bubble burst was that our team would seize the opportunities afforded it. And perhaps do a better job of overcoming adversity than what we saw.
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Re: Did the season flip on one play?

Postby Dement-ed » Sun Nov 07, 2010 1:19 pm

Flipping a season on one play? Every team gives up a long play every now and then.

There has been no evidence suggesting this team is soft or a bunch of quitters. If anything, there is ample evidence to suggest those tags accurately describe some of our team's fans.
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Re: Did the season flip on one play?

Postby San Antonio Mustang » Sun Nov 07, 2010 1:30 pm

Stallion wrote:Nonsense-if that is true our team is soft and a bunch of quitters. Nothing that happened at Navy had anything to do with that "performance" last nite. What is true is that play may have burst the bubble of the unrealistic expectations of a fan base. Hate that you had your bubble burst but it was your bubble.


Stallion, Usually your daytime posts demonstrate a knowledge of the game, so I know you know better. To make an inane statement that what happened at Navy has not effected this team is beneath your knowledge of the game. This team has not played well since the second half of Navy. As for the "unrealistic expectations", I don't think it was unrealistic to believe we had a shot at the Conference Championship after we played Tech and TCU as well as we did and Houston lost it's top two quarterbacks. At that point we became the favorite to represent the Western Division. I suppose the Texas fan base was also unrealistic in thinking they had a shot at the National Championship this year. Both of these fan bases along with the experts had every right to expect their teams would be in their respective races.
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Re: Did the season flip on one play?

Postby George S. Patton » Sun Nov 07, 2010 1:31 pm

I would contend that since RGVs or my play of suggestion it has been followed by a rash of adversity. SMU has lost 3 of it's last 4, played pretty poorly in about 12 of those 16 quarters, lost it's top DB, completely mailed it in vs Houston and appeared to let the officials be a part of their problems vs UTEP when the idea is you have to deal with it and move on. SMU apparently chose to let that happen and when you're focusing on the officials and not what you should or should not be doing then that's on you. So Jones needs to take the heat on this.

So yes, I do think a season can flip on one play. This team better nut up and figure out how it wants the season to end. It can end in December. Play like it has and the season is ending Nov. 26 at ECU. That's a fact.
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