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Postby Junior » Mon Nov 15, 2010 5:20 pm

I guess you can file this one under the topic "delusional".

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=ap-t25-lsushope

BATON ROUGE, La. (AP)—LSU coach Les Miles says the top-ranked Southeastern Conference team should have an opportunity to play in the BCS title game because of how competitive the league has become on the national stage.

LSU won’t play in the SEC title game, but Miles says his experience tells him not to rule the fifth-ranked Tigers out of the national championship picture.


LSU has a chance to finish 11-1 and become the highest-ranked SEC team should Auburn stumble against Alabama and South Carolina in the SEC title game.

The coach says he could not have imagined getting a chance to play for the 2007 title before Missouri’s late-season defeat and West Virginia’s upset loss to Pittsburgh elevated LSU into the championship game.
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Re: Miles: Top-ranked SEC team deserves BCS title shot

Postby Charleston Pony » Mon Nov 15, 2010 6:36 pm

how is this delusional? LSU could finish 11-1 with their only loss a road loss against Auburn. They would own road wins against UNC, FL and Arkansas...not easy places to win; not to mention home wins against WVU, Miss St and oh...defending national champion Alabama.

I'd say LSU would have a strong argument they are the best 1 loss team in the country

If Auburn and Oregon stumble, do you think TCU and Boise should play for the national championship? How do you honestly think those teams would have fared with LSU's schedule? Think they would have finished 12-0? Think they would have gone 11-1?
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Re: Miles: Top-ranked SEC team deserves BCS title shot

Postby Junior » Mon Nov 15, 2010 6:46 pm

i take exception to it because the way i read this, les miles believes that the SEC winner should be in the title game regardless of what happens to the rest of the country.

if they are a top-ranked team, that's fine. if the highest ranked SEC team is ranked 5th, then no, i don't agree with this.
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Re: Miles: Top-ranked SEC team deserves BCS title shot

Postby Charleston Pony » Mon Nov 15, 2010 6:50 pm

I don't read his comments that way at all; I read it more as "if Auburn stumbles, do we have a shot?"? and I think the answer is yes...if they can finish 11-1 and that's a big if
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Re: Miles: Top-ranked SEC team deserves BCS title shot

Postby GeorgiaMustang » Mon Nov 15, 2010 7:48 pm

Miles is hypocritical. Essentially, he is arguing that although they can't win their conference they should play for the title if they are ranked highly by finishing 11-1. This is self serving as hell. If you will recall, Miles did all the politicking he could a few years ago when he was trying to make sure his two loss Tigers played for the title. His argument at the time was that the teams in the national title game should have to win their conference. Now his tune has changed since it doesn't help his cause. At some point, LSU's luck will run out and they will loss a few that no deity known to man can bail them out of.
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Re: Miles: Top-ranked SEC team deserves BCS title shot

Postby Pony_Law » Tue Nov 16, 2010 12:40 pm

Charleston Pony wrote:how is this delusional? LSU could finish 11-1 with their only loss a road loss against Auburn. They would own road wins against UNC, FL and Arkansas...not easy places to win; not to mention home wins against WVU, Miss St and oh...defending national champion Alabama.

I'd say LSU would have a strong argument they are the best 1 loss team in the country

If Auburn and Oregon stumble, do you think TCU and Boise should play for the national championship? How do you honestly think those teams would have fared with LSU's schedule? Think they would have finished 12-0? Think they would have gone 11-1?


This is absurd you are saying LSU deserves a Title Shot because they beat a 8-2 Arkansas, A non-ranked 7-3 UNC team, and A non-ranked 6-4 Florida team on the road? Yes I think BOISE or TCU would have likely beaten all of those teams on the road. And definetly win if they had to play on the Blue or in FTW. Quality home wins against a non-ranked 6-3 WVU team and soon to be un-ranked 7-3 MS St.? Please it gets even more absurd if you start delving into the records of these teams, (Ms. St. wins are against terrible teams (memphis, UAB, Alcorn State, Kentucky Houston (After losing keenum), and georgia missng green and early in the year with Freshman QB) not to mention all of these wins were at home. ALABAMa was a decent win but again they are 8-2. How can you say they would be more deserving than Ohio State and Wisconsin both losing tough games againt 1 loss opponents on the road? How can you say they would be more deserving than Standford whose only lose was to the Number 1 Oregon on the road?

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Re: Miles: Top-ranked SEC team deserves BCS title shot

Postby Charleston Pony » Tue Nov 16, 2010 9:05 pm

you're right; how can I argue with that? SEC sucks. MWC and WAC would stomp all over those sorry over rated programs this year...and how could Miles or anyone else question whether TCU or Boise would romp thru a SEC road schedule without losing a game? Certainly no SEC school could compete with TCU or Boise on their home fields. Alabama must REALLY be horrible this year to have lost 2 games in that sorry conference.

By your logic, should an unbeaten Auburn even deserve a title shot rather than Boise or TCU? After all, that's some pretty sorry competition they will have gone 13-0 against. Let TCU and/or Boise play Alabama so they would have a 13th game and I'm sure neither one of them would lose to that sorry Crimson Tide program.

I'm not in love with the SEC, but I do recognize the fact there is some talent in that league. I will go out on a limb and say quite a bit more than what TCU and Boise see on a weekly basis. You just keep on believing that Arkansas, Miss State, Georgia, South Carolina and the like stink and that Boise and TCU would steamroll them. It may actually be better for Boise and TCU that they don't have to play in the SEC...or Big XII...or Big 10...or PAC 10...but I do hope they get to play a 1 loss team from those conferences in some BCS game so we can see how they do measure up.
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Re: Miles: Top-ranked SEC team deserves BCS title shot

Postby Junior » Tue Nov 16, 2010 9:17 pm

by miles logic, if there are 5 undefeated teams that are ranked higher, the SEC champion should still get a shot each year in the title game. an undefeated auburn will be ranked 1 or 2, so it wouldn't be an issue. a one-loss team should not be bumped up just because of the fact it's an SEC team.

no one is saying the SEC sucks, but it's not of such high stature that each year the BCS championship should come down to the SEC champion and another team.
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Re: Miles: Top-ranked SEC team deserves BCS title shot

Postby Harry0569 » Tue Nov 16, 2010 9:36 pm

Now what do you do if Auburn loses to Bama, then blows out USC. Do you take a 1-loss Auburn over TCU/Boise?

I say yes, but I'm biased.
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Re: Miles: Top-ranked SEC team deserves BCS title shot

Postby Pony_Law » Tue Nov 16, 2010 11:52 pm

I'm not saying there aren't good teams in the SEC i'm simply saying as a league they are overrated. The overrating of the SEC is instituionalized at this point and you clearly are under the spell. Why is it more impressive to go through the SEC with one loss that any other major conference? Look at the teams in the SEC all of the teams build up there wins with incredibly weak non-conference scheduels played at home. Seariously I would love to hear why you think MS St is any good? look at where there wins have come from. Look at LSU and there wins have come from (non-ranked home games). FLorida is a 6-4 team that struggled against USF and Miami OH why is that considered a quality win? Also look at the bottom 4 teams in the SEC what makes them so tough that beating them makes you more deserving than any other 1 loss major conference team?

I don't think anyone can legitamitly argue that Boise or TCU could not beat any team in the SEC. When you look at AUB scheduel you do realize it faced each of its "tough" games at home. You don't think Boise could beat Aransas LSU and USC if played on the BLUE?
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Re: Miles: Top-ranked SEC team deserves BCS title shot

Postby diamond_tom » Wed Nov 17, 2010 11:11 am

It will be too bad when the NCAA rules Cam Newton ineligible and Auburn has to forfeit all of their wins.

Then LSU will be undefeated and cheated out of playing in the SEC championship game.
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Re: Miles: Top-ranked SEC team deserves BCS title shot

Postby Nacho » Wed Nov 17, 2010 11:19 am

another argument for a playoff system instead of this phony bcs junk.

some teams are peaking right now. it would not surprise me to see 7-3 a&m knock off nebraska. should be a great game in which nebraska will get all the calls so the big 12 can get 2 teams in the bcs. what a sorry mess.
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Re: Miles: Top-ranked SEC team deserves BCS title shot

Postby Harry0569 » Wed Nov 17, 2010 11:49 am

Pony_Law wrote:I'm not saying there aren't good teams in the SEC i'm simply saying as a league they are overrated. The overrating of the SEC is instituionalized at this point and you clearly are under the spell. Why is it more impressive to go through the SEC with one loss that any other major conference? Look at the teams in the SEC all of the teams build up there wins with incredibly weak non-conference scheduels played at home. Seariously I would love to hear why you think MS St is any good? look at where there wins have come from. Look at LSU and there wins have come from (non-ranked home games). FLorida is a 6-4 team that struggled against USF and Miami OH why is that considered a quality win? Also look at the bottom 4 teams in the SEC what makes them so tough that beating them makes you more deserving than any other 1 loss major conference team?

I don't think anyone can legitamitly argue that Boise or TCU could not beat any team in the SEC. When you look at AUB scheduel you do realize it faced each of its "tough" games at home. You don't think Boise could beat Aransas LSU and USC if played on the BLUE?


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Re: Miles: Top-ranked SEC team deserves BCS title shot

Postby Harry0569 » Wed Nov 17, 2010 11:49 am

Nacho wrote:another argument for a playoff system instead of this phony bcs junk.

some teams are peaking right now. it would not surprise me to see 7-3 a&m knock off nebraska. should be a great game in which nebraska will get all the calls so the big 12 can get 2 teams in the bcs. what a sorry mess.


AKA Oklahoma A&M.

How is Nebraska not getting killed for getting man handled by a terrible Texas team AT HOME?! Embarrassing.
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Re: Miles: Top-ranked SEC team deserves BCS title shot

Postby Nacho » Wed Nov 17, 2010 11:55 am

good point about ut. i never thought i would see them in a free-fall like this. good thing for them that fla at is playing them sat.

we are in for an extremely tough game with a&m to start our season in '11.
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