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4 Yards vs. 50 yard field goal

PostPosted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 3:51 pm
by Hoop Fan
i thought JJ was a confident offensive guru. why would you kick a low percentage field goal into a strong swirling wind? you don't believe you can get 4 yards? frustrating day. we played the patsy well though.

Re: 4 Yards vs. 50 yard field goal

PostPosted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 3:52 pm
by Pony_Fan
Hoop Fan wrote:i thought JJ was a confident offensive guru. why would kick a low percentage field goal into a strong swirling wind? you don't believe you can get 4 yards. frustrating day. we played the patsy well though.


That made zero sense to me. Much better chance to get the 1st down than kick it with Matt's inaccuracy -- (see UCF game also).

Re: 4 Yards vs. 50 yard field goal

PostPosted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 3:54 pm
by Hoop Fan
even a pro bowl kicker would have had a hard time making that kick. from where i was sitting, the wind was swirling like crazy

Re: 4 Yards vs. 50 yard field goal

PostPosted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 3:56 pm
by sbsmith
Arguably his worst coaching decision while at SMU. Matt hasn't been on all year and June decides to have him kick a FG with a ridiculously high degree of difficulty and if I recall correctly he blew a TO and still decided to kick the damn FG when he could have been over with Kyle trying to call a good 4th down play.

Re: 4 Yards vs. 50 yard field goal

PostPosted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 3:58 pm
by Hoop Fan
burning the time out made it that much worse. I'm not here to criticize JJ, really not, it was just a mind boggling call to me.

Re: 4 Yards vs. 50 yard field goal

PostPosted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 4:02 pm
by 03Mustang
I will criticize JJ over this. A simply terrible call...you could hear the collective groan when the kicking team came onto the field.

Re: 4 Yards vs. 50 yard field goal

PostPosted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 4:23 pm
by RGV Pony
did Rich ask JJ why he chose to ice his own kicker?

Re: 4 Yards vs. 50 yard field goal

PostPosted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 4:36 pm
by lwjr
I was surprised as well JJ did not go for it, might be more telling of JJ's confidence in his offense.

Re: 4 Yards vs. 50 yard field goal

PostPosted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 4:39 pm
by papawasamustang
lwjr wrote:I was surprised as well JJ did not go for it, might be more telling of JJ's confidence in his offense.


I agree. It shows me that he didn't think Padron could make a big play.

Re: 4 Yards vs. 50 yard field goal

PostPosted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 4:42 pm
by RGV Pony
papawasamustang wrote:
lwjr wrote:I was surprised as well JJ did not go for it, might be more telling of JJ's confidence in his offense.


I agree. It shows me that he didn't think Padron could make a big play.


and yet we have a RB averaging 6 yards per carry.

Go for out, hold on to your timeouts. If you don't get the first down, you still have two time outs. We burned a timeout, and missed a field goal. Same predicament, one fewer timeout.

Re: 4 Yards vs. 50 yard field goal

PostPosted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 10:50 pm
by joeybradford
I wanted to go for it.

Re: 4 Yards vs. 50 yard field goal

PostPosted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 11:16 pm
by JasonB
it was 6 yards, a 47 yard field goal, and the last time we went for it we got smoked. besides that, the Army kicker made one from about the same distance, didn't he?

Symanski had shown in warmups that he could make that kick. that was the higher percentage decision.

Re: 4 Yards vs. 50 yard field goal

PostPosted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 11:22 pm
by ontheedgeofmyseat
"ice his own kicker"?? Hardly..think...Bones talking with Phil before a shot...

Re: 4 Yards vs. 50 yard field goal

PostPosted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 11:42 pm
by Hoop Fan
the army kicker did make a similar kick although not nearly under the same circumstance. And, more relevant than what the army kicker did, syzmanski missed a kick from alot shorter distance earlier in the game. i won't debate whether it was 4 yards or 6 to get a first down. You never want to have to convert on 4th down under pressure, but there is no way that kicking had a better chance to succeed than a short pass in that situation. Not only that, has been syzmanksi been healthy the past month? I would have rather gone down swinging on offense rather than a prayer of a field goal into a tough wind. just surprised JJ didnt want the game in his offenses hands.

Re: 4 Yards vs. 50 yard field goal

PostPosted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 11:50 pm
by papawasamustang
I didn't like the call & I'm sure JJ is going to be 2nd guessing himself for quite sometime.
I'm sure its the same with the 4th & 2 option call.