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Tapping the brakes on Texas

Postby Mitch McConnell » Tue Aug 02, 2011 10:56 am

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I'll admit I used to be a big fan of theirs. But given some of things they've done recently, I'm starting to sour on them.

I think Dodds playing the ignorance card about the recruiting advantage this may have given UT is a bit of an insult to a lot of people. It really does speak to their arrogance.
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Re: Tapping the brakes on Texas

Postby westexSMU » Tue Aug 02, 2011 1:36 pm

I can't believe the NCAA will allow UT, who already has a lot of advantages in recruiting, to broadcast these top high school games on the longhorn network. If UT and ESPN really push this issue, it will break up the big 12.
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Re: Tapping the brakes on Texas

Postby ponytailgater » Tue Aug 02, 2011 3:04 pm

I disagree that the Longhorn network provides any 'unfair' recruiting advantage.

Showing high school football on their network WILL potentially create more goodwill towards the university from high school players. That, in itself, is not unfair. It's not any different than hosting more camps in an area than another school, or advertising more on TV for that matter.

As long as UT coaches aren't saying we won't put your school on TV unless you commit, then it should be allowed.

It definitely improves the image of the UT football program in recruits eyes... but competing schools only dislike this because it will make UT better at recruiting. OU and as many other schools as possible will try and do the exact same thing... and are only mad now because UT has beat them to it.
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Re: Tapping the brakes on Texas

Postby Junior » Tue Aug 02, 2011 3:12 pm

ponytailgater wrote:I disagree that the Longhorn network provides any 'unfair' recruiting advantage.

Showing high school football on their network WILL potentially create more goodwill towards the university from high school players. That, in itself, is not unfair. It's not any different than hosting more camps in an area than another school, or advertising more on TV for that matter.

As long as UT coaches aren't saying we won't put your school on TV unless you commit, then it should be allowed.

It definitely improves the image of the UT football program in recruits eyes... but competing schools only dislike this because it will make UT better at recruiting. OU and as many other schools as possible will try and do the exact same thing... and are only mad now because UT has beat them to it.

what about when a LHN reporter shoves an orange micophone covered with longhorn emblems in his face for an interview or quote from one of the players? you don't think that would send any kind of message?

"man, UT is such a bada$$ school they have their own TV station that is featuring my HS team!!! A&M doesn't have one of those. OU doesn't have one of those."

unfair, and a third-party i backing it. it's not like UT is spending their own money on it. if they weren't making a dime off the ESPN contract, then I'd be more willing to say it's fair.
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Re: Tapping the brakes on Texas

Postby BIGHORSE » Tue Aug 02, 2011 3:27 pm

No brakes to tap for me, I have always hated the cows!!! :twisted:
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Re: Tapping the brakes on Texas

Postby ponytailgater » Tue Aug 02, 2011 4:00 pm

Junior wrote:
ponytailgater wrote:I disagree that the Longhorn network provides any 'unfair' recruiting advantage.

Showing high school football on their network WILL potentially create more goodwill towards the university from high school players. That, in itself, is not unfair. It's not any different than hosting more camps in an area than another school, or advertising more on TV for that matter.

As long as UT coaches aren't saying we won't put your school on TV unless you commit, then it should be allowed.

It definitely improves the image of the UT football program in recruits eyes... but competing schools only dislike this because it will make UT better at recruiting. OU and as many other schools as possible will try and do the exact same thing... and are only mad now because UT has beat them to it.

what about when a LHN reporter shoves an orange micophone covered with longhorn emblems in his face for an interview or quote from one of the players? you don't think that would send any kind of message?

"man, UT is such a bada$$ school they have their own TV station that is featuring my HS team!!! A&M doesn't have one of those. OU doesn't have one of those."

unfair, and a third-party i backing it. it's not like UT is spending their own money on it. if they weren't making a dime off the ESPN contract, then I'd be more willing to say it's fair.


Whether UT pays or ESPN pays doesn't matter. My whole point is there is a distinction between it giving UT an advantage, and giving UT an UNFAIR advantage.

It absolutely makes recruits think they are more bada$$... but that's not unfair. UT is not doing anything another school can't do, just something another school has not done YET.
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Re: Tapping the brakes on Texas

Postby Stallion » Tue Aug 02, 2011 4:19 pm

Anybody that thought that UT was ever going to show high school games on that network is pretty naive. I've read the NCAA rules on this-and there simply is no way that it passes muster under even present day NCAA rules dealing generally with media. Pay attention to what UT got instead-a second game from the Big 12 inventory. I'm convinced it was a negotiating ploy. Keep your eyes on the Ball.
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Re: Tapping the brakes on Texas

Postby Nacho » Tue Aug 02, 2011 4:20 pm

you can't argue with logic like that.
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Re: Tapping the brakes on Texas

Postby Paladin » Tue Aug 02, 2011 4:38 pm

It won't keep DeLoss up at night worrying but I plan on boycotting the Orange Network. I can live without watching UT men's and women's swimming and other events.
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Re: Tapping the brakes on Texas

Postby Mitch McConnell » Tue Aug 02, 2011 4:45 pm

Stallion wrote:Anybody that thought that UT was ever going to show high school games on that network is pretty naive. I've read the NCAA rules on this-and there simply is no way that it passes muster under even present day NCAA rules dealing generally with media. Pay attention to what UT got instead-a second game from the Big 12 inventory. I'm convinced it was a negotiating ploy. Keep your eyes on the Ball.


Has the NCAA really given a ruling over something like this? Could the NCAA even apply what's on its books for media to something as out-of-the-norm as this?

I would tend to think that when this is brought before the NCAA -- and it will -- that those who will review may have to establish some new groundrules.

Just speculation.
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Re: Tapping the brakes on Texas

Postby peruna81 » Tue Aug 02, 2011 5:04 pm

talk in aggie-town is moving swiftly towards a parting with the Horns within the very near future...wouldn't be the best thing in the short term for A&M, as I believe they would get their heads handed to them in the SEC for a while.

Measure the threat by Dodds' rather vulgar and childish recent response to a reporter's inquiry about the Aggie AD...LHN probably did use this ploy to deliver a second Big 3 and-the-seven-dwarfs game as Stallion suggeted, but the real threat that the conference may implode should give SMU needed incentive to continue to get it's athletic house in order for the coming opportunity.
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Re: Tapping the brakes on Texas

Postby Stallion » Tue Aug 02, 2011 5:36 pm

You can start here-but there are others including 13.4.4.5, 13.10.7, 13.10.9

NCAA Bylaw 13.10.3: "A member institution shall not permit a prospective student-athlete or a high school, college preparatory school or two-year college coach to appear, be interviewed or otherwise be involved (in person or via film, audio tape or videotape) on:

(a) A radio or television program conducted by the institution's coach;

(b) A program in which the institution's coach is participating; or

(c) A program for which a member of the institution's athletics staff has been instrumental in arranging for the appearance of the prospective student-athlete or coach or related program material."
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Re: Tapping the brakes on Texas

Postby soccermom » Wed Aug 03, 2011 8:19 am

I have no trust when it comes to ut and the ncaa. I think if ut really wants something it will happen. Rules can be bent,broken or changed for them.
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Re: Tapping the brakes on Texas

Postby Water Pony » Wed Aug 03, 2011 9:12 am

soccermom wrote:I have no trust when it comes to ut and the ncaa. I think if ut really wants something it will happen. Rules can be bent,broken or changed for them.


Agree. Warren Jeffs lives by a separate set of rules too.
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Re: Tapping the brakes on Texas

Postby Pony_Law » Wed Aug 03, 2011 10:41 am

any big 12 team moving to the SEC is a mistake, it significantly reduces you appeal in Texas recruiting and it des not increas your appeal in Florida, You think any kid from FL wants to live in College Station? You think a kid from west texas wants to ask his family to travel all across the South East to see him play? A&M will bark all day but will never bite
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