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The 5th super conference

Postby JasonB » Thu Sep 01, 2011 1:03 pm

I don't see where there could only be 4 super conferences?

Let's say the SEC grabs A&M, FL St, Miami, and clemson to fill in the conference 16.

ACC would then absorb the big east, essentially, without TCU and Cincy.

Big ten would need four schools - ND, Cincy, Mizzou and KU.

PAC 10 expands to 16 - BYU, OU, OSU, texas

It seems like KSU, TT, Iowa State, Baylor are going to need somewhere to play.

Take UAB, Rice, Tulane out of CUSA, add the four teams above as well as Boise State, Air Force, and Colorado State and I think you have your 5th major conference.
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Re: The 5th super conference

Postby ericdickerson4life » Thu Sep 01, 2011 1:14 pm

That's been what I'm thinking for awhile too. Not really about Baylor but the others are all state institutions. I can't imagine the politicians in Kansas or Iowa wouldn't raise a stink. Much like Utah before their inclusion into the P12. Baylor was lucky last time, this time maybe not.
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Re: The 5th super conference

Postby reddevil » Thu Sep 01, 2011 1:52 pm

I think this is the way things are heading, but I think the big 4 are going to take different teams:

Big Ten: ND, Mizzou, Rutgers and Syracuse (Cinn doesn't add anything because the Big 10 already has the Ohio market with OSU and the BIG10 would much rather get their foot into the NYC market instead of the Kansas market).

SEC: TAMU, FSU, VaTech and Clemson (but I am not sold on Clemson, Miami would have been the choice prior to the Shapiro scandal, but the SEC is not touching Miami now)

ACC/Big East consolidate: Cinn, UConn, Louisville, Pitt, USF, WVA, TCU, BC, Duke, GTech, Maryland, Miami, UNC, UVA, Wake -- they also add Kansas (makes a very viable football conference and a dominant basketball conference)

PAC: adds UT, OU, BYU, I am just not sure who the 16th team in the PAC would be (TT, OSU, KU and KSU do not seem to be fits, but maybe they opt for KU with KSU filling the last spot in the ACC/Big East

The Fifth conference would then look like (left overs from Big12 with CUSA): Baylor, ISU, OkState, TT, ECU, UH, UTEP, Marshall, Memphis, Rice, SMU, USM, Tulane, Tulsa, UAB and UCF

The assumptions that I am making are that all current AQ teams find a home in one of the big 4 conferences before any current non-AQ teams are invited into the big 4 (with the exception of independent BYU (ND already as AQ status)). I think you also have to understand that some of the guiding academic principles of some of these conference are going to have be stretched in order to make 4 sixteen team conferences work. I am also assuming that no teams get involuntarily kicked out of their current conference alignments, hence, Rice, Tulane and UTEP stick around.
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Re: The 5th super conference

Postby smupony94 » Thu Sep 01, 2011 1:54 pm

Please, please no Rice
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Re: The 5th super conference

Postby ponydawg » Thu Sep 01, 2011 1:55 pm

JasonB wrote:It seems like KSU, TT, Iowa State, Baylor are going to need somewhere to play.

Take UAB, Rice, Tulane out of CUSA, add the four teams above as well as Boise State, Air Force, and Colorado State and I think you have your 5th major conference.


Dude.....even you left us out of the 5th major conference.
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Re: The 5th super conference

Postby HB Pony Dad » Thu Sep 01, 2011 1:57 pm

BYU doesn't have a prayer of the PAC 12 even if the Angel Moroni

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Re: The 5th super conference

Postby reddevil » Thu Sep 01, 2011 2:06 pm

HB Pony Dad wrote:BYU doesn't have a prayer of the PAC 12 even if the Angel Moroni

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appears to intercede! :roll:


I understand the feelings towards BYU among the PAC members, but wouldn't TT and OSU be a tougher sell than BYU?
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Re: The 5th super conference

Postby NickSMU17 » Thu Sep 01, 2011 2:07 pm

BYU will never sniff pac 12...
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Re: The 5th super conference

Postby reddevil » Thu Sep 01, 2011 2:14 pm

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Re: The 5th super conference

Postby 03Mustang » Thu Sep 01, 2011 4:12 pm

The fifth super conference will rule the next division down.

Why would they need more than 64 teams?
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Re: The 5th super conference

Postby Charleston Pony » Thu Sep 01, 2011 5:00 pm

if the so-called super conferences come to be, my guess is that it will shake out based on football operating budgets (ours could be inflated by "cost of tuition" per scholarship if that is even considered) but I would expect football operating budgets to be close to our total athletics budget

I think that will be how the "players" attempt to separate themselves from the rest. we shall see
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Re: The 5th super conference

Postby ponyboy » Thu Sep 01, 2011 5:09 pm

NickSMU17 wrote:BYU will never sniff pac 12...


Why do you think BYU won't be invited, Nick?
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Re: The 5th super conference

Postby smupony94 » Thu Sep 01, 2011 5:10 pm

ponyboy wrote:
NickSMU17 wrote:BYU will never sniff pac 12...


Why do you think BYU won't be invited, Nick?



Well known aversion to religiously affiliated schools by Pac 10 members

Major exception is USC.
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Re: The 5th super conference

Postby Charleston Pony » Thu Sep 01, 2011 5:12 pm

rumors in the southeast today have the SEC possibly inviting NC State as A$M's eastern counter-part. Definitely a dark horse entry...but same theory as A$M...tired of playing second fiddle to UNC

lots of talk that FSU, Va Tech and Clemson like their championship chances better as members of the ACC

If this happens...and OU starts the PAC 16 movement, it's only a matter of time before the ACC and Big East "powers" merge to form the the east coast super conference.

when A$M gets this started, it promises to get very interesting
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Re: The 5th super conference

Postby RednBlue11 » Thu Sep 01, 2011 5:12 pm

their religion being money?
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