Looking To Join The Big Boys?---DMN today-Thoughts?

by **ponyscott** » Sat Sep 17, 2011 10:58 am

From today's front Page of Dallas Morning News and Rick Gosselin.

For the attorney's out there, if some teams out of a possible 120 D-1 schools, don't make it into a proposed Super Conference, do these schools have a strong case for a Class Action Lawsuit? Could they tie up the conferences in court for years?.....June Jones had a interesting point at the last lunch and said the non- BCS schools should just go make it a Spring Football League and not ever play the BCS schools and have their own TV contract and playoff system and F the BCS schools.

http://www.dallasnews.com/sports/column ... ft-out.ece

'If super conferences emerge, some schools wonâ€™t make the cut'

Rick Gosselin

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Published: 16 September 2011 11:40 PM

UNIVERSITY PARK â€” The concept of a super conference may be appealing to perennial football powers Texas, Nebraska and Oklahoma. They will always have a seat at that table.

But the formation of such conferences isnâ€™t necessarily in the best interests of college football in general.

The sportâ€™s future likely includes four 16-team super conferences: the Pac-12, Big 10, SEC and a collection of leftover Big East and Atlantic Coast Conference teams.

There are 120 schools competing at the BCS level. Failure to land a spot in one of the super conferences could doom almost half the schools playing football in the NCAAâ€™s top tier to a second-class existence.

By the time the super conferences finish choosing up sides, there will be 56 colleges left over. That could leave schools such as Baylor, Boise State, BYU, Cincinnati, Iowa State, Kansas, Kansas State, Louisville and SMU without a BCS home. And you wonder why Baylor is fighting the demise of the Big 12 with such vigor?

SMU isnâ€™t going quietly, either. If the Big 12 is going to survive, the Mustangs want back in. If the Big 12 isnâ€™t going to survive â€” Texas A&M, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State all seemingly have their bags packed â€” SMU still wants one of the 64 super conference spots.

â€œWe felt now was a good time to step out publicly,â€ SMU athletic director Steve Orsini said. â€œWe have a lot of positive things to sell. Obviously, the landscape is unstable right now. So letâ€™s see if we can add value to make that landscape more stable. We think we have a great situation here to do that.â€..............

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by **GiddyUp** » Sat Sep 17, 2011 11:25 am

I think Gosselin's 16 team / 4 divisions is correct in the paper....looks about right to me.

SEC
Pac 16
Big 16
BE

TCU in BE with Baylor left out in the cold with Boise, Cinn, Lousville, SMU

by **Dutch** » Sat Sep 17, 2011 11:29 am

GiddyUp wrote:I think Gosselin's 16 team / 4 divisions is correct in the paper....looks about right to me.

BE 16
ACC
Pac 16
Big 16

TCU in BE with Baylor left out in the cold with Boise, Cinn, Lousville, SMU

he had:
SEC
Big East
BIG16
PAC16

by **GiddyUp** » Sat Sep 17, 2011 11:34 am

correct, typo

I don't see Iowa State on his list either.

by **ponyscott** » Sat Sep 17, 2011 11:36 am

If something like this happens, many, many schools will be left outside looking in. There should be a huge legal case pending.....

by **GiddyUp** » Sat Sep 17, 2011 11:37 am

ponyscott wrote:If something like this happens, many, many schools will be left outside looking in. There should be a huge legal case pending.....

It does leave a lot of schools out in the dark - perhaps another "Superconference" -( I hate that word)...that would have a playoff game to get AQ status for a BCS bowl game?

what a mess!

by **NickSMU17** » Sat Sep 17, 2011 11:42 am

Only issue is big east is already Falling apart...

Syracuse and pitt just submitted apps for acc

by **Stallion** » Sat Sep 17, 2011 11:45 am

You are seeing the effects of the BCS monopoly. You could have predicted this the day the BCS was born. Its played out exacty like that Children game where the are 120 children but only 64 chairs. One thing could have slowed this-a championship playoff with the champion of every conference advancing.

by **Dutch** » Sat Sep 17, 2011 11:45 am

NickSMU17 wrote:Only issue is big east is already Falling apart...

Syracuse and pitt just submitted apps for acc

what will happen is what's left of the BE/ACC after the BIGandSEC have plucked who they want, will form the 4th conf. call it whatever. EACC+FtW.

by **ponyscott** » Sat Sep 17, 2011 11:48 am

Stallion wrote:You are seeing the effects of the BCS monopoly. You could have predicted this the day the BCS was born

As an attorney..what ARE the legal options for those that are left out? Is there precedent for something like this?

by **GiddyUp** » Sat Sep 17, 2011 11:54 am

NickSMU17 wrote:Only issue is big east is already Falling apart...

Syracuse and pitt just submitted apps for acc

doesn't matter - it will either be ACC or BE

by **Otto** » Sat Sep 17, 2011 11:56 am

NickSMU17 wrote:Only issue is big east is already Falling apart...

Syracuse and pitt just submitted apps for acc

How cool would it be to see the Big East crumble just as Froggy High gets there?

by **jpe747** » Sat Sep 17, 2011 12:54 pm

I'm not sure that we are looking at this correctly. I think we could start a new SWC and get rivalries and tons of interest, defy the BCS - have a playoff with someone in another conference left out and proclaim the winner NATIONAL CHAMPION. Kind of like what the AFL did to the NFL. I think the recruiting would be better because families could see their kids play more games, etc. The SWC could be SMU, BAYLOR, TULSA, HOUSTON, TULANE, UTEP, RICE and SAN ANTONIO. You would have DALLAS, SAT, HOUSTON and NEW ORLEANS television audiences not to mention EL PASO, WACO and TULSA which should also be decent. I say TEXAS, TT, OU, OSU, TCU and A&M are going to loose local and state interest (all thought they will gain national money, etc.) I would not be surprised if law suits and loss of local fans etc. doesn't destroy the super-conferences. As an example, TEXAS A&M will have a much harder time being considered a powerhouse team. They will be looked at as average or maby below average.

by **jpe747** » Sat Sep 17, 2011 1:22 pm

It might help if I reviewed my spelling! Sorry for the above!

by **couch 'em** » Sat Sep 17, 2011 1:55 pm

jpe747 wrote:I'm not sure that we are looking at this correctly. I think we could start a new SWC and get rivalries and tons of interest, defy the BCS - have a playoff with someone in another conference left out and proclaim the winner NATIONAL CHAMPION. Kind of like what the AFL did to the NFL. I think the recruiting would be better because families could see their kids play more games, etc. The SWC could be SMU, BAYLOR, TULSA, HOUSTON, TULANE, UTEP, RICE and SAN ANTONIO. You would have DALLAS, SAT, HOUSTON and NEW ORLEANS television audiences not to mention EL PASO, WACO and TULSA which should also be decent. I say TEXAS, TT, OU, OSU, TCU and A&M are going to loose local and state interest (all thought they will gain national money, etc.) I would not be surprised if law suits and loss of local fans etc. doesn't destroy the super-conferences. As an example, TEXAS A&M will have a much harder time being considered a powerhouse team. They will be looked at as average or maby below average.

We've been playing local games for years: Houston rice Tulsa tcu unt utep latech. We haven't stolen any recruits